# ...will the board consider explicit transphobia hate-speech?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-board-consider-explicit-transphobia-hate-speech/842204/15 "2019-10-24T02:44:19Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Well](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trans%20woman), [yeah](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trans%20man). 😉

I’m not sure what you mean by the definitions and the winky-face?

To explain, here’s the exchange with Kobal2 in full:

> [@Transgender activists pressure Always to Womens symbol of feminine hygiene products](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transgender-activists-pressure-always-to-womens-symbol-of-feminine-hygiene-products/842069/22):
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> It’s really not that murky when you accept that transmen are men (regardless of their plumbing) and transwomen are women (regardless of the plumbing) because sex and gender are two separate concepts.

> [@Transgender activists pressure Always to Womens symbol of feminine hygiene products](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/transgender-activists-pressure-always-to-womens-symbol-of-feminine-hygiene-products/842069/24):
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> NO, transwomen are transwomen and transmen are transmen. Not REAL men and women.

If you think about the rhetorical structure, you’d say:

> [@](#):
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> (1) Stuffed **dogs** are stuffed dogs, and stuffed **cats** are stuffed cats. Not real **dogs** and **cats**.

But you would put it backwards on one side like this:

> [@](#):
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> \*\*\*Stuffed **dogs** are stuffed dogs, and stuffed **cats** are stuffed cats. Not real **cats** and **dogs**.

What he wrote appears to be inverted like \*\*\* above. At first, because I’m used to referring to trans people correctly, I just took it to be sloppy rhetoric. Then I realized - of course he is deliberately misgendering them. When he wants to refer to a transman, he uses the word transwomen.

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