# Will the pro amnesty and sanctuary city movements hurt democrats?

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**Created:** [March 21, 2018, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-pro-amnesty-and-sanctuary-city-movements-hurt-democrats/810956 "2018-03-21T12:43:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-pro-amnesty-and-sanctuary-city-movements-hurt-democrats/810956/51 "2018-03-21T22:46:09Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> So if I have have a family member hurt by an illegal, and I am angry and want them deported, that makes me a white nationalist?

it does mean that you are the victim of fallacious reasoning. The Idea that a crime committed by an undocumented immigrant is a crime that wouldn’t have happened if that immigrant was not here, is not born out by any data. Cities of equal size and equal economic status have an equal number of major crimes, regardless of their population demographic. That specific person wouldn’t have hurt you, it’s true, but someone else, native or other, would have hurt some other victim. You may feel better by having that person deported, but it does nothing for the overall crime rate.

The tack that many use - that doing more to prevent illegal immigration and doing more to deport the undocumented, would reduce crime is just wrong. And wanting to punish an entire ethnic community for the actions of it’s criminals can be seen as racist.

mc

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