# Will The Republicans ever figure out why they lost? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 26, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224 "2012-12-26T21:33:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/181 "2012-12-28T03:15:35Z")
> [@SmilinJack](#): > > If slavery was the great moral outrage most liberals believe…then one would think The Holy Scriptures would have made some reference to that. Why? It was written by barbarians. > [@SmilinJack](#): > > One never hears liberals complain our use of illegal labor in America. :rolleyes: Yes, we do. All the time. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/182 "2012-12-28T03:15:56Z")
> [@SmilinJack](#): > > \*\*If slavery was the great moral outrage most liberals believe…then one would think The Holy Scriptures would have made some reference to that. > > Case Closed.\*\* > > BTW Slavery is still practiced in Africa, China and in some places in the muslim world. > > Also…the position in our society of the illegal workers is not that far removed from slavery…in fact someone would call it just a different form of slavery— We’re better than that. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/183 "2012-12-28T03:17:51Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > We’re better than that. That too. We’ve progressed just a tiny little bit in the last few thousand years. Which is why a book written by barbaric primitives make a terrible guide to morality. Or anything else, except the views of barbaric primitives. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/184 "2012-12-28T03:21:51Z")
> [@SmilinJack](#): > > When all is said and done…opinions are like assholes…everyone has one. > > But a scholarly and expert opinion is not to be overlooked…except by the foolish. “Scholarly and expert opinion” admires Lincoln and the Union cause, and you know it. ---
**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/185 "2012-12-28T03:22:33Z")
> [@SmilinJack](#): > > If slavery was the great moral outrage most liberals believe…then one would think The Holy Scriptures would have made some reference to that. Which Holy Scriptures? There’s lots. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/186 "2012-12-28T03:23:58Z")
> [@SmilinJack](#): > > If slavery was the great moral outrage most liberals believe…then one would think The Holy Scriptures would have made some reference to that. > > Case Closed. Only the case against the value of the Holy Scriptures. > [@SmilinJack](#): > > If Also…the position in our society of the illegal workers is not that far removed from slavery…in fact someone would call it just a different form of slavery— **Well,** then, if you think that, you should be all a-fire for amnesty, shouldn’t you?! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/187 "2012-12-28T03:23:58Z")
The Holy Scrip used to be Demerol. But I hear now its Oxycontin. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/188 "2012-12-28T03:27:12Z")
> [@Gleena](#): > > Which Holy Scriptures? There’s lots. Why, the ones of the One True Faith, of course! Although reading the Necronomicon in the original Shoggoth is a real pain, I’ll tell you. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/189 "2012-12-28T03:32:30Z")
And he’s banned, so it looks like we’ll never get to see his great revelation on how to Save America. I’m crushed, crushed I tell you! ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/190 "2012-12-28T03:36:14Z")
**MODERATOR NOTE:** SmilinJack, I have removed three articles you copied onto the message board in total. On the Straight Dope Message Board we allow people to quote relevant sections of things but you are not allowed to reproduce entire articles – or entire anything – that is not your own copyrighted work. You can link to articles. You can quote parts of things. That’s as far as it goes. Don’t do this again. Also your tone towards other posters is rude and insulting. Dial it down. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/191 "2012-12-28T03:38:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > And he’s banned, so it looks like we’ll never get to see his great revelation on how to Save America. I’m crushed, crushed I tell you! And if you blinked, you missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/192 "2012-12-28T03:38:09Z")
Banned?!? No!!! All those wonderfully witty putdowns I had, lost, abandoned, wasted, gone. Oh well. Posters like him resemble buses on a busy street. Another one will be along in five minutes. ETA: Tuba, you unbanned him? WTH? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/193 "2012-12-28T03:39:56Z")
Looks like he’s de-banned…for the moment. Somehow I think we’re going to still be left hanging on his great revelation though… ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/194 "2012-12-28T03:40:31Z")
Yay! More time with the toy! ---
**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/195 "2012-12-28T03:43:18Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Why, the ones of the One True Faith, of course! > > Although reading the Necronomicon in the original Shoggoth is a real pain, I’ll tell you. Ia! Flgn! I tried the One True Faith, but it disagreed with my digestion. Now I cling to the Holy Scriptures of the One Not-Really-True-But-Feels-Nice Faith. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/196 "2012-12-28T03:50:07Z")
> [@Gleena](#): > > Ia! Flgn! > > I tried the One True Faith, but it disagreed with my digestion. Now I cling to the Holy Scriptures of the One Not-Really-True-But-Feels-Nice Faith. What, you went Episcopalian? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/197 "2012-12-28T03:52:19Z")
Bokonon teaches us that if you are going to believe lies…and, most likely, you will…then believe the lies that make you wise, kind and just. Maybe not “Holy”. Maybe not even “Truth”. Close enough. I don’t need much. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/198 "2012-12-28T04:08:38Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Bokonon teaches us that if you are going to believe lies…and, most likely, you will…then believe the lies that make you wise, kind and just. Nah. The ones that make you [fun](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius) are better. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/199 "2012-12-28T04:12:18Z")
[junior-mod hat on] BTW, **SmilinJack,** if you seriously want to argue for the justice of slavery or the justice of the Confederate cause or the evil of Lincoln, that’s too far afield from the Elections forum (all modern American elections proceeding more or less on the assumption that all those are long-settled issues, and that won’t change in your lifetime or mine or your grandchildrens’); those are really Great Debates topics. [/jmho] ---
**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224/200 "2012-12-28T05:22:21Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > What, you went Episcopalian? This made me laugh harder than it should have, because Whiskeypalian was my last stop on the Christianity train before I got off. I waded through the copypasta, but did the OP ever actually say why the Republicans lost? I got lost in the “You Say Slavery Like It Was a Bad Thing, Because Hispanics are Made Up” serenade. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-republicans-ever-figure-out-why-they-lost/645224.md?page=11)