TPP.
An Obama win to be sure but also a GOP one.
Am I the only one who looks at the title of this thread and thinks, “the Supreme Court of Your United States,” like a sports announcer?
And now gays can vote their economic self interest instead of the marriage issue.
You only WISH our memories were that short…
The Republicans had a small window of opportunity to try to reach gay voters when they could at least say “Look, the Democrats may talk about gay rights but what have they actually done for you? You might as well give up on ever having basic civil rights and vote for us because we’ll cut your taxes.”
But now the Democrats have actually delivered on gay rights. And done so in the face of widespread Republican opposition.
What will the Republicans be running on in 2016? An acknowledgement that they’ve been wrong on gay rights for the last twenty years? No, they’ll be running against gay rights by promising to roll back gay rights just like they promise to abolish Obamacare and ban abortions.
Economic self interest like not worrying that they’ll lose their jobs for being gay? Like protection from housing discrimination? Like being able to spend their money in public accommodations without worrying about being denied services?
I think he’s talking about the magical tax cuts that are never married to spending cuts. Economic suicide is the more descriptive term. Reagan and W both pulled that trick and then spent the nation into bankruptcy. Sadly, a large segment of the voting population is dumb enough to fall for it again.
Plus married people tend to be more REpublican, so thumbs up to more married couples!
Outside of a few select zip codes, votes for economic self interest are Democratic votes.
I don’t think gays are going to say “Yippee, we won! Now we’re free to vote for the party that fought tooth and nail against our rights!”
Name one demographic group that votes the past rather than the present.
Today gays can get married. Republicans have no interest in passing any anti-gay laws, or standing in the way of repealing old ones.
So what does that leave? A lot of pretty well off people with double income, no kids, paying too much in taxes.
This is the present. In the present, most Republicans are arguing that this was a bad SC decision, and many prominent Republicans are arguing that the decision can be ignored in some way, and many are advocating for a Constitutional amendment (or other things) to overturn it.
Good heavens, what makes you say that? I can’t imagine that you really believe that.
Have you been reading about the reactions in places like Texas and Alabama? The reactions of about half of the announced (and unannounced) Republican presidential candidates?
There is absolutely nothing in the reality-based world that supports your assertion.
The Republicans. Generally about 1955.
Holy cow, you typed that. You actually typed that and hit “Submit reply”.
So all those “religious freedom” bills are just going to go away now? All those right-wing judges and governors are going to drop their opposition to the SCOTUS decision? The “Married on Sunday, Fired on Monday” problem will just evaporate? That’s…that’s good to know.
…who have a better understanding of what the GOP’s intentions are toward them than you do.
The Same Sex Marriage advocacy groups are already switching over to advocate for equal rights protections in housing, employment, etc. The anti-SSM groups are gearing up for saying that people should be free to fire homosexuals, deny them housing, etc because of “religious freedom”. Right now we have the Texas attorney general saying that state clerks don’t have to listen to the Supreme Court and will hook them up with a network of pro bono attorneys when the inevitable lawsuits come in.
Will this resonate the same way gay marriage did? Who knows. It will provide ample opportunities for Republicans to step all over themselves explaining why it should be legal to evict a gay married couple purely on the basis of their homosexuality but that doesn’t mean that they’re anti-gay.
Voting is about the future. And the future is the next President will probably appoint at least one Justice to the Supreme Court. Gay Americans all saw this week what that means. If Alito, Roberts, Scalia, and Thomas are joined by one more Republican-appointed Justice, there’ll be a conservative majority in the Court and they can take back this week’s decision.
I can’t recall EVER reading such a … naive? … uninformed? … outright stupid? … claim on these boards.
What color is the sky on your planet?
Maybe he just forgot to put the word “should” in there.
I know a lot of well off people “paying too much in taxes.” Hell, I’m one myself. But we love our country, and our children. And we are sane. There isn’t a Republican in the race we would even *consider *voting for. I hate to say it, but the people I run into who tend to vote Republican are not economic conservatives who are voting in their enlightened self-interest, but they’re economically and socially disadvantaged, who demonize people like President Obama and Secretary Clinton for reasons that really make no sense. Granted, I’m in a blue state, but don’t forget about places like Washington and Oregon when you’re analyzing how certain people vote…