# WIll the X-Box live up to the hype? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 31, 2001, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667 "2001-10-31T05:18:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![psychogumby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c0e974/32.png) [@psychogumby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychogumby)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/41 "2001-11-05T10:51:13Z")
I think that the best thing about the X-Box is that it should help push the price of PS2 down. And I would give my left testicle for a PS2 with GT3. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/42 "2001-11-05T11:38:31Z")
I don’t know if anybody has mentioned this; I didn’t have time to read the whole thread but suppposedly there are going tobe some porno-type games you can buy for the Xbox how cool is that?!😃 ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/43 "2001-11-05T17:36:51Z")
Taken from [this](http://xboxactive.com/archives/00000093.php) page: > [@](#): > > Pixis Interactive Inc. today announced "Virtual Pornstar: Bunny Luv"™, the first adult title for the Xbox, at the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) in Los Angeles > > \ > > “By developing it for the Xbox or as we at Pixis like to call it, the SEXbox, we’ve transformed the most powerful game machine into the most powerful sex machine,” said Mark Media, vice-president of product development, Pixis. “It combines two of the most compelling subjects that will keep hardcore gamers hooked- sex and games.” > > Developed by Pixis Interactive Inc., “Virtual Pornstar: Bunny Luv” will allow gamers a completely unique experience, allowing them to have virtual sex with a seductive adult movie actress. > > “Virtual Pornstar: Bunny Luv” features the patent pending Touch Feel User Interface (TFUI), which allows for full interactivity with a virtual actress from any angle and position from the first person point-of-view. It also features exclusive footage, a photo gallery, and interactive movie clips. Um, I think I’ll stick with Madden2002 or Halo. Really. Thanks, though. Eww… ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2001, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/44 "2001-11-05T22:50:08Z")
Bah, lose track of a thread and see where it gets ya. First off… sir Rjung… > [@](#): > > You can also try “Windows XP” or “Microsoft .NET” if you want variety. Careful, man, you’re tempting fate. 😃 > [@](#): > > You definitely haven’t been following the XBox criticism. I’ll just let Microsoft’s dismal showing at E3 speak for itself – all of the gaming magazines I read said that the XBox titles all featured murky graphics and unimpressive gameplay. Too true. So what? The PS2 didn’t start having any impressive games until its second or third wave. In fact, the major PS2 criticisms at the time of its release were almost identical to what you just wrote up there. It’s expected that the first wave of games won’t be “spectacular”. Again, this is hardly a significant criticism. > [@](#): > > You mean “buying game development companies,” don’t you? All I know is that it’s resulted in some kickass games (Mechwarrior 3, for example, or the Flight Sim games). > [@](#): > > (I continue to find it rather ironic that Halo, the XBox’s big-name rollout title, was originally a Macintosh game from a Macintosh game developer. Guess those Microsoft game developers weren’t good enough…) You’re kidding, right? You do know that Bill Gates is a huge proponent of Macs? You do know that he owns a good chunk of Apple Computer stock? Hell, I look forward to the day when Apple decides to make its own console system. It’ll be a third the size of the X-Box, and transparent. 😃 > [@](#): > > Really? I couldn’t get away from them. And at least those kiosks had playable games. As does the X-Box. Like I said, I’ve played the damn thing. Although the Oddworld game (despite having very nice graphics) doesn’t have enough guns or swords for my tastes. > [@](#): > > I could never quite get into the Gran Turismo titles myself – I give them lots of props for the attention to realism and detail, but it doesn’t have the shut-up-and-drive adrenaline rush that I prefer from a racer. Give me Ridge Racer, Crazy Taxi, or (drool) WipeOut: Fusion instead. Ditto that. I’ve just never been a big fan of racing or fighting games. Now, Sofa King… > [@](#): > > What, you’re not even going to bother with me, SPOOFE? Nothing personal, it’s just that your post smacked more of “down with Microsoft!” than “down with X-Box!” And the whole Microsoft thing is a subject that’s… well… gotten me in trouble before. 😃 > [@](#): > > I’ll make a long-term bet with you: > > I predict that Microsoft will announce its intention to release some sort of major revision to the X-Box before March 1st, 2002. That could be in the form of a downloadable service pack, a corrective disc, a change in hardware, a recall, or some other change to the platform which we both agree is a “major revision” in at least partial response to poor product performance. > > And we know MS will try not to admit it if they do, so we’ll have to agree with each other. Notice I’m only giving them three-and-a-half months from the projected release date of November 15. Well, let’s see… what would you consider a “major revision”? Something along the lines of a recall, yes, I can see that. You’re on with that one. But upgrade CD’s? Patches? Please, those are _good things_. They’re industry standard. Many a console game - for all systems - could stand to have a correction or two added to them. So how’s this: If they find it necessary to initiate a recall by March 1st, or if they find it necessary to fix some damaged hardware (like the aforementioned worry about the unit overheating), OR if there is a significant, predictable glitch in the system that is NOT caused by individual games, then yes, you’re on. But obscure, isolated flaws don’t count, is what I’m saying. How’s this… the loser of the bet has to add something - of the winner’s choice - to his sig for, oh, a month? Like “I bet against the X-Box and lost and all I got was this stupid sig line”, or something to that effect? Hell, this might be fun. ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/45 "2001-11-06T00:10:59Z")
Sounds fair enough to me. Let’s do it! ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/46 "2001-11-06T02:56:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > > > [@](#): > > > > I’ll make a long-term bet with you: > > > > I predict that Microsoft will announce its intention to release some sort of major revision to the X-Box before March 1st, 2002. That could be in the form of a downloadable service pack, a corrective disc, a change in hardware, a recall, or some other change to the platform which we both agree is a “major revision” in at least partial response to poor product performance. > > > > And we know MS will try not to admit it if they do, so we’ll have to agree with each other. Notice I’m only giving them three-and-a-half months from the projected release date of November 15. > > Well, let’s see… what would you consider a “major revision”? Something along the lines of a recall, yes, I can see that. You’re on with that one. But upgrade CD’s? Patches? Please, those are _good things_. They’re industry standard. Many a console game - for all systems - could stand to have a correction or two added to them. > \*\* Not that I have an opinion as to whether or not it’s going to happen, there _are_ patches/corrective CDs that count as major revisions. The recall/issuing of the original PS2 DVD utility disc comes to mind, and I’m sure there have been games that have been damn near unplayable without patching first (Arcanum springs to mind) as well. So though I’m loathe to butt in to your bet (hah, yeah right), I’d say you guys should agree to judge any patches/upgrade CDs as “major revisions” or not on a case by case basis. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/47 "2001-11-06T04:37:19Z")
The X-Box controllers may look big and clunky, but when I held one I found it was very comfortable and well laid out. However, I am still secretly hoping Microsoft crashes and burns with this thing. ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/48 "2001-11-06T09:24:23Z")
> [@](#): > > So though I’m loathe to butt in to your bet (hah, yeah right), I’d say you guys should agree to judge any patches/upgrade CDs as “major revisions” or not on a case by case basis. Yeah, I can live with that. Besides, it’s not like I’m losing money with this bet. Oh, Sofa… we should have a stipulation that, whoever loses, should use their sig line at least on a near-regular basis. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/49 "2001-11-06T10:37:34Z")
Actually i think MS made a mistake in how there doing the system they shouldn’t of made exclusive games for it What they should of done was make a d threw in a keyboand,hd, and modem and an optional monitor said something along the line of "you can play PC games without the PC " sorta like web TV Now as for the overheating augment does anyone remember Sony not telling nayone for almost 2 years that the first like 500,000 Ps one over heated? I found out the hard way when my games began to skip and then it just didn’t come on anymore The resale place where I bought a used one looked at the serial number and said it was well with in range of being made in the period And yes Sony did make CD games and manufactured the SEGA genesis CD in fact Sony and SEGA were the only real supporter of the system The reason Sony made their own system was annoyance at SEGA and Nintendo who made a dealt with them to make the vaporware snes CD system a project which fell through As for the n64 besides being difficult to make games for the big n had a falling out with the compete that made most of the best selling snes games squaresoft I also heard they had a beef with capcom over the nature of its games which by the time resident evil 64 came out the n64 was a non issue so the big n learned like Atari did whit the jag and lynx SEGA with the sms and Saturn one company cant support a system on its own ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/50 "2001-11-06T17:45:34Z")
If I lose, **SPOOFE** , I will be happy to post my sig once per thread, as is recommended by the Powers That Be. I know I don’t use it very often now, but I’ll change that to accomodate the bet. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667/51 "2001-11-06T21:04:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \* > > > [@](#): > > > > (I continue to find it rather ironic that Halo, the XBox’s big-name rollout title, was originally a Macintosh game from a Macintosh game developer. Guess those Microsoft game developers weren’t good enough…) > > You’re kidding, right? You do know that Bill Gates is a huge proponent of Macs? Of course he is – he likes it so much, he spent fifteen years trying to copy it! 😃 Too bad he still can’t get it quite right… > [@](#): > > You do know that he owns a good chunk of Apple Computer stock? Just to nip this urban legend in the bud, Microsoft owns **three percent** of **non-voting** Apple Stock, purchased in 1997 as part of a settlement between the two companies. Hardly “a good chunk,” but enough to get Microsoft to commit to continuing development of MS Office for the Mac. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-the-x-box-live-up-to-the-hype/90667.md?page=2)