# Will there be any liberals left here after the conversion to paying site?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 21, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625 "2004-03-21T23:42:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/101 "2004-03-23T03:42:11Z")

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**elucidator** said:

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> Let me trot out my favorite question when you guys start whining about how outnumbered you valiant defenders are, alas! How do you think it got that way, huh? Got a board devoted to rational discourse, evidence, debate, and by some mechanism that dare not speak its name, it turns into a liberal hell-hole.

Oh oh, pick me! I know why!

It’s because about a half dozen very prolific liberal posters in Great Debates act like complete assholes to any conservatives around. This board used to be much more balanced. Then a lot of long-time regular conservative posters stopped posting.

Congratulations. The biggest dickheads won.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/102 "2004-03-23T03:54:02Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> OK, you got me on that one, but that wasn’t my intent.
> 
> Looking at the support Kerry’s getting on the SDMB, you’d think that he was an absolute cinch to win. He’s not. It’ll be close, but it’s by no means over, and certainly not to the tune of 82-18 in Kerry’s favor.

You keep citing this as if it’s relevant. I’m not sure it is. Seems to me that a significant number of conservatives here are in Kerry’s camp this time around…like [this guy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4666603&postcount=32).

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/103 "2004-03-23T04:14:30Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> Congratulations. The biggest dickheads won.

Not if you’re still here.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/104 "2004-03-23T04:45:56Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> Yo, Cartwright!
> 
> Two cases of Yeungling vs 4 bottles of Mt Hope’s Concord? Mt Hope is in Mannheim…ain’t all that far from you…
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> Whassa matter, son? Cat got your tongue? 😃

Consider it done. Despite my intention to vote for Kerry, I’m still game for a friendly wager.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/105 "2004-03-23T04:48:15Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> Consider it done. Despite my intention to vote for Kerry, I’m still game for a friendly wager.

Gee, thanks for signing me out without posting anything, Robin. :rolleyes:

Needless to say, that was me. Robin has a maddening habit of signing me out and yet not posting anything. But that’s a subject for another Pit thread.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/106 "2004-03-23T04:49:37Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> You keep citing this as if it’s relevant. I’m not sure it is. Seems to me that a significant number of conservatives here are in Kerry’s camp this time around…like [this guy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=4666603&postcount=32).

Funny. I’m the exception rather than the rule around here.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/107 "2004-03-23T05:18:53Z")

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> [@](#):
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> It’s because about a half dozen very prolific liberal posters in Great Debates act like complete assholes to any conservatives around. This board used to be much more balanced. Then a lot of long-time regular conservative posters stopped posting.

Aw, c’mon, surely this poor unnamed batch of conservative ex-posters are tougher than that. Run off by a bunch of pantywaist, bleeding heart, tree-hugging liberals? How about an example or two?

Once someone posts, the words remain up for all to see. If one person or another is behaving like a jackass, it will, in most cases, be obvious. If one has a logical, factual argument to make, it will be evident as such, whether or not a majority of posters agrees with it.

Believe me, there are plenty of posts I’ve made in GD that I wish would quietly fall to dust, but they remain, and so be it. I certainly try not to take it too personally when I get gutted like a landed trout, as happens with some frequency. Either the critic makes a valid case, and I let it slide, or they’re just another hotheaded jagoff on a message board, in which case I, uh, mostly let it slide. OK, maybe not all that often. What I say, not what I do, and all that.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/108 "2004-03-23T05:52:30Z")

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I did so follow the thread! Right now we’re talking about…uh…slides. I guess we’re rehashing the great sliding pond vs. slides fight.

We called them slides. But in NY we shorten everything.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/109 "2004-03-23T06:00:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Congratulations. The biggest dickheads won.

’  
Yea, I felt the same way. Can you believe that the SCOTUS handed that silver spoon MF the job, despite the other MF getting more votes? Man it’s you and me, Bro. 😃

PS [the following is unrelated to the topic and not meant as an insult if you do not get the reference]Are you climbing walls while sitting in a chair? Do little pictures have big ears?Does the Gold run through your veins, like a thousand railroad trains? Where is the space monkey? If you get what I mean then drop me a line. If not then just ignore the previous.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/110 "2004-03-23T06:11:24Z")

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Well, I almost didn’t have the cash to join the SDMB, because there’s a hole in my arm where all the money goes.

But I haven’t seen **The Passion** , so I don’t know if Jesus Christ died for nothing.

I suppose.  
And now 80% of the readers of the thread are hopelessly confused. It’s a big old goofy world.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/111 "2004-03-23T06:19:11Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> Well, I almost didn’t have the cash to join the SDMB, because there’s a hole in my arm where all the money goes.
> 
> But I haven’t seen **The Passion** , so I don’t know if Jesus Christ died for nothing.
> 
> I suppose.  
> And now 80% of the readers of the thread are hopelessly confused. It’s a big old goofy world.

I may not be a big ole goofy girl, and I am not Barbra Lewis Hari Crishna Beauregard, and I did not spend Cristmas in prison, but we should talk. e-mail? And you can give my stomach to Millwakee, if they run out of beer (Sorry for going overboard but Prine is definately THE man, and I have yet to run into people that have heard him)

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/112 "2004-03-23T06:25:02Z")

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Sure. You can e-mail me at [dan@happyfunpundit.com](mailto:dan@happyfunpundit.com), but you might have to let me know when you send something, because I’m getting about 300 spams a day at that address. Sigh. Only reason I’m posting it here is because it’s a lost cause anyway.

Prine is a big favorite of mine. Been listening to him since 1977.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/113 "2004-03-23T06:42:55Z")

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Check your e-mail.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/114 "2004-03-23T07:12:56Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> It’s because about a half dozen very prolific liberal posters in Great Debates act like complete assholes to any conservatives around. This board used to be much more balanced. Then a lot of long-time regular conservative posters stopped posting.

Yet, oddly enough, the two dozen very prolific conservative posters in Great Debates acting like complete assholes haven’t managed to drive the local liberals away. Surely a gaggle of “fair and balanced” fire-breathing Defenders of Truth aren’t going to be spooked by a handful of quiche-eating leftie Hollywood wusses, are ya?

Or shall we simply admit that your cockamamie theory isn’t worth the electrons needed to store your mesage in the SDMB database? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/115 "2004-03-23T11:13:04Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Check your e-mail.

Holy shit. You have more than 300 posts in less than a month?

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Owes\_Bess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@Alan\_Owes\_Bess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Owes_Bess)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/116 "2004-03-23T11:19:34Z")

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If it’s any consolation to the OP, I can guarantee that 80% of Australian dopers who decide to subscribe won’t be Liberals.

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Owes\_Bess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@Alan\_Owes\_Bess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Owes_Bess)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/117 "2004-03-23T11:29:34Z")

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Oh Goody.  
It eventually decided to swallow my money and I’m now a **Chartuh Membuh**.  
My fan club will be so pleased.

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**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/118 "2004-03-23T12:14:56Z")

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There’s a stupid racist asshole fanclub now? Wow.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/119 "2004-03-23T12:53:30Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> Sure. You can e-mail me at [dan@happyfunpundit.com](mailto:dan@happyfunpundit.com), but you might have to let me know when you send something, because I’m getting about 300 spams a day at that address. Sigh. Only reason I’m posting it here is because it’s a lost cause anyway.
> 
> Prine is a big favorite of mine. Been listening to him since 1977.

_hijack_  
Prine fan here, too…I met him once in a bar in Salt Lake City (plus, you know, I really like his music and all)…cool!!  
_end hijack_

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**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/120 "2004-03-23T13:02:15Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> I may not be a big ole goofy girl, and I am not Barbra Lewis Hari Crishna Beauregard, and I did not spend Cristmas in prison, but we should talk. e-mail? And you can give my stomach to Millwakee, if they run out of beer (Sorry for going overboard but Prine is definately THE man, and I have yet to run into people that have heard him)

I like John Prine, too. “That American flag decal won’t get you into heaven anymore/It’s all filled up from killing in your dirty little war.” Some songs are timeless.

One of these days I’ll open a mild pit about the grunge band with the song about the peaches that stole all their lyrics from John Prine.

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