# Will there be any liberals left here after the conversion to paying site? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 21, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625 "2004-03-21T23:42:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/121 "2004-03-23T13:20:39Z")
This cowpoke’s about as bleedin’ heart as they come and he forked over his $4.95 yesterday before sundown. Also got his ass chewed out for laughing and pointing at the warm n’ fuzzy nimrods in that “goodbye, cruel SDMB” MPSIMS thread. Which, admittedly, was deserved. _This_ is the place to laugh and point, not where they actually breed!! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Mal\_Adroit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@Mal\_Adroit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mal_Adroit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/122 "2004-03-23T13:33:06Z")
I’m kidding, of course. All wonnnnderful folks. “Jenkins, you fool! We can’t let them _breed…_” ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/123 "2004-03-23T13:48:05Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Gee, thanks for signing me out without posting anything, Robin. :rolleyes: > > Needless to say, that was me. Robin has a maddening habit of signing me out and yet not posting anything. But that’s a subject for another Pit thread. Bring it on, boy! Man, I almost thought I had a bet with the OTHER Cartwright! That would have been a hoot! ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/124 "2004-03-23T14:11:37Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Looking at the support Kerry’s getting on the SDMB, you’d think that he was an absolute cinch to win. He’s not. It’ll be close, but it’s by no means over, and certainly not to the tune of 82-18 in Kerry’s favor. There’s tons of possible reasons for the results of that informal poll, and none of them have to mean that this board is “liberal” per se. Tow main reasons: [ul][_]This board attracts people from all over the world. Canadians, Brits, Aussies, Euro Trash, Asians… you name it. With a few exceptions, anybody from outside the US could be classified as “liberal” on an American political spectrum. So yeah, Europeans dislike GWB even more than half of America does. It’s to be expected. [_]If 82% of Dopers would vote for Kerry, does that mean that 82% are die-hard liberals, or that a considerable part of that 82% are actually conservatives who are disgusted with what George and the GOP have done to your country?[/ul]Just something to think about. ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/125 "2004-03-23T15:12:05Z")
[QUOTE=Coldfire] There’s tons of possible reasons for the results of that informal poll, and none of them have to mean that this board is “liberal” per se. Tow main reasons: [ul][li]This board attracts people from all over the world. Canadians, Brits, Aussies, Euro Trash, Asians… you name it. With a few exceptions, _anybody_ from outside the US could be classified as “liberal” on an American political spectrum. So yeah, Europeans dislike GWB even more than half of America does. It’s to be expected. If 82% of Dopers would vote for Kerry, does that mean that 82% are die-hard liberals, or that a considerable part of that 82% are actually conservatives who are disgusted with what George and the GOP have done to your country?[/ul]Just something to think about.[/li][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Coldfire] There’s tons of possible reasons for the results of that informal poll, and none of them have to mean that this board is “liberal” per se. Tow main reasons: [ul][li]This board attracts people from all over the world. Canadians, Brits, Aussies, Euro Trash, Asians… you name it. With a few exceptions, _anybody_ from outside the US could be classified as “liberal” on an American political spectrum. So yeah, Europeans dislike GWB even more than half of America does. It’s to be expected.[/li][/quote] I think that poll specified Americans. Can’t guarentee that a non-American didn’t slip in, but it likely would not be enough to affect the results meaningfully. [quote] [li]If 82% of Dopers would vote for Kerry, does that mean that 82% are die-hard liberals, or that a considerable part of that 82% are actually conservatives who are disgusted with what George and the GOP have done to your country?[/ul][/li][/QUOTE] But the point here is that national polls do not show 82% of voters supporting Kerry or anything close to it (if anything, Bush may have a slight lead). So there are obviously not nearly the same amount of liberals or conservatives-who-are-disgusted-with-Bush-etc. in the country at large as there are on the SDMB. Point stands. ---
**Author:** ![gluteus\_maximus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f17d59/32.png) [@gluteus\_maximus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gluteus_maximus)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/126 "2004-03-23T15:42:11Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > Holy shit. You have more than 300 posts in less than a month? Ain’t that sump’mn? And the poor thing is sick, too! Too sick to go to sleep! All he can do is postpostpostpostpost! And now he’s sending email, too! I’m thinkin’ 'bout starting a poll thread entitled: “How many posts will **askeptic** have by April Fool’s Day?” ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/127 "2004-03-23T15:52:58Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > Holy shit. You have more than 300 posts in less than a month? Holy shit. You have over 14,000 posts in less than 5 years? :rolleyes: Do the math jack, its about the same average. And I only been at it for about a month. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/128 "2004-03-23T15:57:03Z")
You are who again? Oh yeah, the skeptic who thinks 14,000 is about the same as 19,500. What, do you work for government or something? What is SDMB, the shovel you lean against? ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/129 "2004-03-23T16:12:05Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > You are who again? Oh yeah, the skeptic who thinks 14,000 is about the same as 19,500. What, do you work for government or something? What is SDMB, the shovel you lean against? WTF are your meds off? Under your join date it says 14,330 posts. If you got another 5,000, how the hell am I supposed to know that? Besides, if you do have over 19,000posts, it makes your attempt to insult me even funnier. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/130 "2004-03-23T16:20:54Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Holy shit. You have over 14,000 posts in less than 5 years? :rolleyes: Do the math jack, its about the same average. And I only been at it for about a month. **Lib** ’s post average is 9.02 per day, yours is 21.21 per day. I didn’t even need to do any math, it’s in the profile. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/131 "2004-03-23T16:21:25Z")
> [@](#): > > WTF are your meds off? Under your join date it says 14,330 posts. If you got another 5,000, how the hell am I supposed to know that? Besides, if you do have over 19,000posts, it makes your attempt to insult me even funnier. Or, just suggesting here, he could be referring to your projected five-year total, Mr. Ever-So-Easy-To-Get-Wound-Up. ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/132 "2004-03-23T16:25:59Z")
Well, I am left of liberal and I joined, does that count? (Of course the $4.95 mean’t I had to skip seeing “The Passion” but them’s the breaks) ---
**Author:** ![beajerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@beajerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beajerry)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/133 "2004-03-23T16:39:38Z")
I notice most of the posters in this thread are Charter Members. I don’t know if that means they are liberal or not, though. I don’t really label myself (so I’m probably a liberal), but I won’t be here after the conversion. (Unless you can figure out which 30-day guest name I’ll be each month!) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/134 "2004-03-23T20:09:14Z")
I have a theory that the right-wing idiots tend to spontaneously combust in a manner that gets them banned, whereas the left-wing idiots tend to spontaneously combust in a manner that simply destroys their credibility (but not their posting privileges); hence the increased likelihood of right-wing people being forceably removed. But it’s just a theory. I haven’t decided whether or not I’m staying, but it has nothing to do with the money or the company; rather, the need to make a decision has me reconsidering how much time I really ought to be spending online versus actually doing something constructive with my life. Ah, who am I kidding? I’ll probably cough up. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/135 "2004-03-23T20:36:42Z")
I wonder how long **Airman** will be in the doghouse after that comment. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/136 "2004-03-23T20:47:40Z")
> [@](#): > > WTF are your meds off? As a matter of fact, yes. Why? Were you appointed to taunt people who need medication? ---
**Author:** ![county](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@county](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/county)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/137 "2004-03-23T20:54:36Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > As a matter of fact, yes. Why? Were you appointed to taunt people who need medication? well, i think that is a role that we (who are not medicated) assume as necessary (no dog in this fight - just felt compelled to say that) ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/138 "2004-03-23T21:02:52Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I’m not going to ask for 100 cites, but I think 10 would suffice. I’m calling “bullshit” on your “liberal=poor” generalization. Yah - I’m a total liberal, and I’m rich as shit. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/139 "2004-03-23T21:17:05Z")
It was a cheap shot on my part, for that I do apologize. I was not intentionally making a reference to actual medication. I was just trying to sarcasticaly respond to the seemingly insulting posts concerning myself. I hope you get the situation under control. While I often disagree with your posts, I certainly wish you well. No matter how much you want to belittle me, I want to (for reasons of my own) become a member of this community. If my posting becomes offensive, or abusive, I have confidence that the Admin. or Mods. are more than capable of dealing with me. I suggest that if you are undergoing medical treatment, you should be well aware of the fact that there are many reasons people may find themselves with too much time on their hands. And that they may decide to communicate with other humans rather than watch TV. Also that being new to this type of activity some people may push the envelope occasionally while attempting to learn the ropes. GluteousM:Pretty tacky referring to a persons health or lack thereof. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625/140 "2004-03-23T21:19:33Z")
Wait a minute “Posting Sabbatical” thats a new one. Did said Posting Sabbatical come after the post? Is it like being put in time out, or can you volunteer? Enquiring minds want to know! 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-be-any-liberals-left-here-after-the-conversion-to-paying-site/235625.md?page=8)