’cos I’m not your buddy, friend!
In this thread, I posted the following, which is just as relevant to this thread:
Yeah, well I’m not your friend, guy!
Or Watergate, or the 1968 Democratic convention, or all the activity and protests during Vietnam. Or Hurricane Katrina. Or the LA riots. Or the massive inflation and unemployment of the late 70’s. Not to mention disco and pet rocks!
Or a zillion other things.
The OP has to be kidding. Or very young. What’s going on now barely rates a 4 out of 10 on the national “things are crazy” meter.
I think trump may try to postpone the election if he thinks he will lose, and maybe the Supreme Court will get involved to mandate we have elections.
And I think trump will refuse to step down if he loses. Hopefully he is marched out in handcuffs if he does.
Neither have the Republicans.
Actually, my gf took today off to tidy up our home for TGiving. So, no longer disorderly, get out and vote.
What is the panic over this “interfering”?
Foreigners can type on Facebook. Duh.
It’s just part of life in the 21st century. Get over it!!
People who make accusations of foreign “interference” are unwittingly making a much, much more serious accusation: they are incriminating themselves, and the entire basis of American society.
They’re saying that American citizens are not worthy of democracy, and should not be allowed to vote…because they are not capable of thinking for themselves–they can only do what those foreign bots on Facebook tell them to do.
Gee, freedom of speech is a horrible thing. Let’s cancel the First Amendment. And, even better… let’s get rid of Google and Facebook: Sell all their stock to a bank owned by the Chinese government --that way you know that the news will be properly censored.
Voila! No more “interference” in the democratic system.
Is that what you really want?
This seems to be a fairly baseless fear to me. We’re definitely having the election in 2020. I’m not sure if the Democrats will have selected a candidate by then. . . but, we’ll have the election.
Wanna bet?
The address the last statement first, “refusing to step down” is meaningless. The President doesn’t step down. The Presidency isn’t something you can possess. If Trump loses the election, what happens is some other person is sworn in on January 20, 2021, and then that person starts doing the job. Trump can actually barricade himself in the Oval Office; he still wouldn’t be the President.
As to the former, no he will not. Republicans are liars and cheaters, of course, and will cheat in the election. But the cheating won’t be to postpone the election, it’ll be to rig it. Most of this is pretty out in the open, but I’ve no doubt there will be some slimier under the table stuff. If the Republicans wanted to cheat - and they do - trying to postpone the election is the worst way to do so. It would be a far more logical approach to try to win it by nefarious means.
All over the internet there seems to be quite a few Alt-Right, Punk-Republicans attempting to foment some type of Shay’s Rebellion from members of the Democratic Party with everything from videos showing assaults of peaceful protesters, to out and out threats from days-old accounts, to threats of a suspended election from the Executive.
It is everywhere I look on the internet, like a well funded and coordinated campaign.
Now, it’s easy to tell these people to go F-ck themselves, but this holiday season why not do it with style?
Between the two of you, you’ve got Buddy Guy!
Some of the people putting forth these conspiracy theories seem to have no idea how our republic works.
Nope heard it then too.
I came early this time. Wait till you see me after the election.
Which outcome?
Try to pull that shit with my mother. I can’t believe that people believe this.
Well then, please fight my ignorance. Suppose Trump throws a hissy fit after the votes are counted, in which Biden or Warren has indisputably beaten him by a large margin. What is the response of everyone going to be, but, “Dole lost and left, Gore lost and left, Kerry lost and left, McCain lost and left, Romney lost and left, Hillary lost and left, and you are going to depart the Oval Office at precisely noon on Inauguration Day 2021 whether you like it or not, courtesy of the hands and arms of four Secret Service agents dragging you out to a waiting helicopter?”
Edit: Also, as **RickJay **mentioned, at noon on Inauguration Day, every branch of the U.S. bureaucracy, military, etc. is simply going to start taking orders from President-Elect Warren or Biden or whomever. Trump can have the White House as his playroom forever and it wouldn’t make a bit of difference.
MarcusFlavius, I’d like to join in on this bet. Give me odds of anything you want. 100 to 1. Even 1000 to 1. I’ll bet you the elections aren’t getting canceled.
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There will be a 2020 election.
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Some of the results will probably be decided in court.
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No matter what the results about 20% of the people will hate them, 20% love them, and 60% wishing we would just get over it all already.
The election will happen. Trump may not like the result. I’m not sure he has enough of the right sorts of allies to prevent his being physically removed from the White House if he decides he doesn’t agree with handing over power to a new occupant. And the nature of his preferred shenanigans is established well enough that nobody will buy whatever cockamamie scheme he hatches to nullify the result. Which is not to say he won’t TRY something, just that it won’t come close to working.