# Will there ever be another Chtorr novel?

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**Created:** [April 15, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206 "2014-04-15T21:00:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/41 "2015-01-26T23:07:59Z")

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From Gerrold’s Facebook page today:

[Quote=David Gerrold]

Later this week, I am going to start a crowdfunding project that will enable me to buy enough writing time to finish the Chtorr series. The project will officially start in Feb., but I’ll start working out the details, with your cooperation, here.

This is only for people so impatient to read the next book that they’re willing to become a patron of the art.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/42 "2015-01-27T04:46:32Z")

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Hmmm.

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**Post date:** [January 27, 2015, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/43 "2015-01-27T05:09:02Z")

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In which the author attempts to force a certain vocal portion of his readers to “put up or shut up.” If the crowdfunder is unsuccessfully funded, it will then be _their_ fault that the book is delayed yet further.

I know I’m reading too much into that, but my recent rereading (as mentioned some months ago) of the first 2 books leaves me with little to no desire to read anything further written in that vein. Ah well. Guess that makes me part of the crowd that needs to either do it better or shut up.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/44 "2015-02-04T18:48:26Z")

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[This was announced](https://www.facebook.com/david.gerrold/posts/10204843857268585) (facebook) a couple of days after the last post here. So it does look like Gerrold is working on it, at least.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/45 "2015-02-04T18:48:57Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> [This was announced](https://www.facebook.com/david.gerrold/posts/10204843857268585) (facebook) a couple of days after the last post here. So it does look like Gerrold is working on it, at least.

Today he said he’d sent out the email links to the chapters for backers.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/46 "2015-08-05T18:54:41Z")

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Gerrold has strongly hinted that there will be a new Cthorr novel available at Worldcon (i.e., Labor Day weekend).

(Here, Gerrold is quoting from one of his detractors)

> [@Sad Puppy](#):
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> \>\>Of course Gerrold is something of a has-been now.He’s got a series that’s he’e never going to finish…

His reply

> [@David Gerrold](#):
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> And in the past 18 months, this has-been has finished three novels, two of which should be available at Sasquan in special editions, and the third – well, that particular announcement should put the lie to the second sentence quoted above.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/47 "2015-08-06T20:47:11Z")

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From his FB page today:

> [@David Gerrold](#):
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> First draft is finished. I still need to number the chapters and plug in appropriate Solomon Short quotes.
> 
> I’m not sure about the correct order of some of the chapters and sections. My beta-readers will get copies shortly. (Please don’t volunteer, I’ve already got my six.)
> 
> The book is big. It sprawls. It’s got some amazing stuff in it. (At least, I think so.) And it is not only the best book yet in the series, it might very well be one of the very best things I’ve ever written.
> 
> There’s probably 2-3 months of work still to do in the editing, but the book is done.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/48 "2015-08-06T20:48:00Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> From his FB page today:

Excellent.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/49 "2015-08-06T23:11:06Z")

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oh please oh please oh please be true this time PLEASE

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/50 "2015-08-07T01:31:17Z")

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It’s been so long I’d need to reread the lot of them. And I don’t know if I can do that.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/51 "2015-08-07T03:14:03Z")

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Hot diggity. Long, long ago, he petitioned people to buy a small role in the book for a contribution to charity of his choice. I ponied up, and at a time when the exchange rate was not to my advantage. I hope he honours the deal, because I’m looking forward to a gruesome death.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/52 "2015-08-08T12:30:29Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> From his FB page today:

Can you give a link? (I’m not on facebook, and when I try looking at his public page, the most recent post I see is from April 4)

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/53 "2015-08-08T19:54:47Z")

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Here’s the full post. I’m not sure if it’s available to the public, though.

> **[David Gerrold](https://www.facebook.com/david.gerrold/posts/10206177421126848?pnref=story)**
>
> Apparently, there's a thread somewhere on which this comment was posted:
> 
> \>\>Of course Gerrold is something of a has-been now.He’s got a series that’s he’e never going to finish.... Finally it’s been...

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/54 "2015-08-08T20:26:16Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Here’s the full post. I’m not sure if it’s available to the public, though.
> 
> [David Gerrold](https://www.facebook.com/david.gerrold/posts/10206177421126848?pnref=story)

I was not logged in to FB and I was able to see it.

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**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/55 "2015-08-08T21:33:52Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Here’s the full post. I’m not sure if it’s available to the public, though.
> 
> [David Gerrold](https://www.facebook.com/david.gerrold/posts/10206177421126848?pnref=story)

Thanks. That worked for me.

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**Author:** ![Jophan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@Jophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophan)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/56 "2016-03-04T16:46:35Z")

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As David’s editor at Tor Books, I’m happy to confirm that he has turned in a draft of book 5, **A METHOD FOR MADNESS** , and is working on the final two volumes. Keep an eye on [Tor.com](http://Tor.com) for more news about this as the work proceeds and a new schedule can finally be set.

As a fan of this series since I wrote a rave review of the first book for _Publishers Weekly_ in 1983, and bought the first two books for the Science Fiction Book Club a couple of years later, I’ve made it my mission to see the series completed. I can assure you that David is dedicated to that goal.

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/57 "2016-03-04T16:56:03Z")

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Thanks **Jophan**! This totally fucking rocks!

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/58 "2016-03-04T18:10:42Z")

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> [@Jophan](#):
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> As David’s editor at Tor Books, I’m happy to confirm that he has turned in a draft of book 5, **A METHOD FOR MADNESS** , and is working on the final two volumes. Keep an eye on [Tor.com](http://Tor.com) for more news about this as the work proceeds and a new schedule can finally be set.
> 
> As a fan of this series since I wrote a rave review of the first book for _Publishers Weekly_ in 1983, and bought the first two books for the Science Fiction Book Club a couple of years later, I’ve made it my mission to see the series completed. I can assure you that David is dedicated to that goal.

If you’re still reading this, please check your private messages.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/59 "2017-01-10T17:16:45Z")

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Just bumping this thread because Gerrold honest-and-for-true promised that the next Cthorr book “would be out” before Obama finishes his second term.

So he has less than 10 days for it to hit the shelves. And yet…I don’t see any announcements that it’ll be out this week or the next.

So…everyone hold your breath in anticipation?

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-there-ever-be-another-chtorr-novel/686206/60 "2017-01-10T17:23:00Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Just bumping this thread because Gerrold honest-and-for-true promised that the next Cthorr book “would be out” before Obama finishes his second term.
> 
> So he has less than 10 days for it to hit the shelves. And yet…I don’t see any announcements that it’ll be out this week or the next.
> 
> So…everyone hold your breath in anticipation?

Maybe he has inside information that Obama will overturn the election and stay in office.  
Gerrold will _never_ have to finish.

😃

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