# "Will they or won't they" couples...who didn't

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 3, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118 "2009-11-03T01:14:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/81 "2009-11-04T12:04:11Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Is there any reason you must assume that Ted and the mother wind up staying together? From your post, it seems you are assuming that based on the premise of the show. I didn’t see the first episode–does it flat out say the mother character and he are still in a relationship together?

There are a few flashforwards to the future (I believe it’s supposed to be when Ted and the gang are in their 60s) and Ted has talked about his wife (the mother). Usually some joke about how Ted, Marshall and Lily are hanging out and Ted wonders where his wife is (because even in a future where she should be present, we still don’t see the mother).

Those flashforwards go beyond the time period of storytelling Ted, so they’re obviously married and together after they get together for good.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The Professor and Mary Anne

Skipper and Gilligan.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/83 "2009-11-04T14:21:31Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The Professor and Mary Anne

Funny, I always thought the Professor had his eye on Mr. Howell.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/84 "2009-11-04T14:29:02Z")

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Stabler and Benson on L&O: SVU.

Yeah, he’s married, but there’s always been sexual tension between the two of them, and he’s been separated/had marriage troubles at various points in the series. Benson was pretty jealous of the hot female partner that replaced her when she was undercover, and Stabler always gets pissy when he finds out Benson is dating someone. Stabler’s wife is often jealous of Benson.

The series isn’t over yet, but I doubt it’ll ever happen.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/85 "2009-11-04T15:41:21Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> It’s been a long, long time since I saw Remington Steele. Maybe they were kissing or something while the credits rolled. I don’t recall.

He was carrying her up the stairs to the bedroom in the mansion they were staying in. The phone started ringing (IIRC it was Mildred) and they looked at it, then at each other, then ignored it and kept going upstairs. Fade to black.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/86 "2009-11-04T15:42:47Z")

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Aragorn and Eowyn.

The George Clooney and Nicole Kidman characters in the 1997 thriller _The Peacemaker_ sure seem like they’re going to fall for each other, but it never happens, and they remain “all business” in their respective roles as a military officer and a White House aide trying to avert a terrorist attack.

Capt. Frank Furillo and an attractive younger female detective on _Hill Street Blues_ found themselves drawn to each other when he was on the outs with his long-term sweetie, public defender Joyce Davenport, but over a multi-episode arc they realized it just wouldn’t work out.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/87 "2009-11-04T16:01:16Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> The George Clooney and Nicole Kidman characters in the 1997 thriller _The Peacemaker_ sure seem like they’re going to fall for each other, but it never happens, and they remain “all business” in their respective roles as a military officer and a White House aide trying to avert a terrorist attack.

At the end of the movie, it seemed as if they were going to give each other a try. It wasn’t explicitly said, but I think it was strongly implied.

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**Author:** ![StoutHearted](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@StoutHearted](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StoutHearted)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/88 "2009-11-04T16:26:02Z")

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I was a huge fan of the show _Remember WENN_. It played on AMC a few years ago, was cleverly written by Rupert Holmes (of “If you like pina coladas…” fame). The series took place in a radio station during World War II. However, it was canceled after several seasons to make way for the lackluster series _The Lot_. Anyhoo, the lead characters Betty and Scott never got a chance to profess their love, despite a never-resolved cliff hanger where she had to choose between him or her first love Victor. Thanks a lot, AMC!

_Pushing Daisies_ had an interesting concept, where the lead couple in love couldn’t ever hook up or the lady would die. Ned’s ability to raise Charlotte from the dead meant that he could never touch her again, or she would die again. Although, they did find creative ways to get around it, such as taking advantage of the use of plastic sheeting. (Which makes it sound dirtier than what happened!)

ETA: I almost forgot “My Fair Lady” – Professor Higgins and Eliza Dolittle never hook up, he just orders her to fetch his slippers as she lovingly stares on with a “That’s our Professor!” look on her face.

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**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/89 "2009-11-04T17:14:44Z")

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> [@well\_he\_s\_back](#):
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> John Steed and Mrs. Peel on “The Avengers”

Are you sure? I’d always taken it as a given that they were shagging like bunnies during their off-hours from crime-fighting. Naturally, the modest nature of mid-60s BBC TV would not allow that to be shown, but it was hinted at - Mrs. Peel always acted like more than just a guest for high tea when visiting Steed’s flat, acting more like she lived there.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/90 "2009-11-04T18:03:50Z")

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They always acted more like good friends than lovers. On the other hand, I think there were a few episodes in which Peel spent the night at Steed’s flat – not that it was explicitly stated, but that she was there for a nightcap and breakfast the next morning, that kind of thing. And it’s hard to imagine any red-blooded Englishman sharing a bachelor pad with Emma Peel and not trying _something_. Perhaps they were “friends with benefits.”

In any case, Peel eventually left Steed and returned to her husband, so they do qualify for this thread in that even if they did, eventually they didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Giltathriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@Giltathriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giltathriel)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/91 "2009-11-04T18:20:39Z")

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Starbuck & Apollo in the new Battlestar Galactica. They had an affair for a while, but once he was divorced and her husband was dead, they still don’t get together.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/92 "2009-11-04T19:08:21Z")

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> [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](#):
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> Fry and Leela DO get together in the fourth movie, Into the Wild Green Yonder. This is part of canon since the movies will bridge pre- and post-cancellation.

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There are four movies? I’d only heard about one. I need to catch up on that before the series starts up again!

ETA: Unless that’s already happened, too. I don’t have cable. I watch TV online, or have a friend record it.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/93 "2009-11-04T19:19:01Z")

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> [@Giltathriel](#):
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> Starbuck & Apollo in the new Battlestar Galactica. They had an affair for a while, but once he was divorced and her husband was dead, they still don’t get together.

They hooked up, then she got married the next morning.

And seeing as her husband didn’t die until the last episode and she was already an angel by then, I really don’t think that side of things was particularly conducive to getting back together.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/94 "2009-11-04T19:30:52Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Did it in the final episode. Then the narrator (the voice of the adult Kevin) described how Winnie went to Europe to study and when she finally came back, Kevin met her at the airport, accompanied by his young son. The son’s voice calls to him (the only other voice to ever be heard in the narrative) to come play catch and adult Kevin does. The end.

Are you sure about the kid part? The way I remember that bit of narration, he says he met her “at the airport and introduced her to my wife.” not son.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/95 "2009-11-04T22:46:34Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> Are you sure about the kid part? The way I remember that bit of narration, he says he met her “at the airport and introduced her to my wife.” not son.

Adult Kevin actually says he met Winnie at the airport with his wife AND son. It may even have been two sons, I’m not certain, but he was definitely married with one or more kids.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/96 "2009-11-04T22:52:43Z")

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Harry Stone and Christine Sullivan on Night Court.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/97 "2009-11-04T23:05:39Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Harry Stone and Christine Sullivan on Night Court.

Didn’t they get married on _30 Rock_? 😉

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/98 "2009-11-04T23:49:06Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> The recent marriage of Jim and Pam on _The Office_ got me thinking about “will they or won’t they” couples. For most of the examples I could think of (e.g. Rachel and Ross, Daphne and Niles, Scully and Mulder), the ultimate answer was “Yes, they do.” I’m having a harder time thinking of cases where the answer was “No, they don’t”, although there have been a few. Can you help me think of more?.

I kind of tailed off the last season or two of the X Files. When did Scully and Mulder become a couple?

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/99 "2009-11-04T23:53:07Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> I kind of tailed off the last season or two of the X Files. When did Scully and Mulder become a couple?

Unofficially, sometime after S7. Officially, the series finale and the latest film.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/100 "2009-11-05T00:08:01Z")

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> [@StoutHearted](#):
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> ETA: I almost forgot “My Fair Lady” – Professor Higgins and Eliza Dolittle never hook up, he just orders her to fetch his slippers as she lovingly stares on with a “That’s our Professor!” look on her face.

I don’t think it’s quite that clear cut. The final line is “Eliza? Where the devil are my slippers?” That’s not quite the same as ordering her to get them.

> [@cmkeller](#):
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> Harry Stone and Christine Sullivan on Night Court.

> [@Lamia](#):
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> Didn’t they get married on _30 Rock_? 😉

I’m not a _30 Rock_ watcher, so, huh?

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