# "Will they or won't they" couples...who didn't

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 3, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118 "2009-11-03T01:14:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/101 "2009-11-05T00:10:35Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> I don’t think it’s quite that clear cut. The final line is “Eliza? Where the devil are my slippers?” That’s not quite the same as ordering her to get them.
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> I’m not a _30 Rock_ watcher, so, huh?

There was a 30 Rock episode–the only one I’ve ever watched, in fact–in which Harry Anderson and Markie Post appeared, as themselves, to “star” in one character’s dream series finale of Night Court; as their 80s characters, they got married.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/102 "2009-11-05T00:15:24Z")

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I’m sorry I missed that. _Night Court_ wasn’t exactly Shakespeare, but everyone had a certain flair that worked well together. It would have been interesting to see what’s become of them.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/103 "2009-11-05T00:21:43Z")

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> [@The New and Improved Superman](#):
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> Mary Richards and Lou Grant on “the Mary Tyler Moore Show.” In the next to last episode, Lou did take Mary out on a date, but when they actually kissed - they both burst out laughing at the idea that they would “do it.”

My first thought was also Mary and Lou, and Mary and Murray. Murray always had a crush on Mary.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/104 "2009-11-05T00:29:58Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> My first thought was also Mary and Lou, and Mary and Murray. Murray always had a crush on Mary.

Every man in the station was in love with Mary. Possibly every man in the city. I’m not convinced that even Sue Ann’s affection for Mary was entirely innocent of carnal imaginings.

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**Author:** ![Pulp\_Friction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2acd7d/32.png) [@Pulp\_Friction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pulp_Friction)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/105 "2009-11-05T02:07:00Z")

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> And let’s not forget Buddy and Sally on _The Dick Van Dyke Show._

First of all, Buddy was married.

Second of all…_eeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!_

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**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/106 "2009-11-05T02:14:48Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> I think most “West Wing” fans expected Josh Lyman (Bradley Whitford) to end up with Donna (Janel Moloney), but it never happened.

Our glimpse into the future at the _beginning_ of the last season leaves it up to viewers to decide if Josh and Donna are still a couple, but they’re definitely still close by the way that things are addressed.

Another couple that ultimately didn’t is Grace Van Owen and Michael Kuzak on _L.A. Law_.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/107 "2009-11-05T18:56:50Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Practically any show resolves romantic tension if it stays on the air long enough. Usually, it’s a jump the shark event for the show. I Dream of Jeanie, Lois & Clark are examples.

Lois and Clark getting together was a JTS moment? I thought the entire purpose of the series all along was getting them hooked up.

> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Janeway & Chakotay from ST: Voyager.

I always saw the Janeway/Chakotay relationship as more of a platonic relationship. I didn’t get any sexual overtones from them, more like a brother/sister type of bond.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/108 "2009-11-05T19:09:15Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> ’  
> There are four movies? I’d only heard about one. I need to catch up on that before the series starts up again!
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> ETA: Unless that’s already happened, too. I don’t have cable. I watch TV online, or have a friend record it.

The Futurama movies are out on DVD. In fact, they were released before Comedy Central split them into episodes and aired them. The series doesn’t start again until 2010, so you should be able to catch up easily.

Also, having read your clarification on Voyage and the Chakotay/Janeway relationship, it’s more clear to me now why it was handled as clumsily as it was.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/109 "2009-11-05T21:10:17Z")

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James Bond and Miss Moneypenny (in the movies anyway).

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/110 "2009-11-05T22:38:13Z")

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Morgan and Garcia on Criminal Minds. There is lots of flirting, pet names and real emotional connection both ways, but so far they haven’t. Although, I think they might have in the episode where she is targeted by the serial killer if it weren’t for that pesky having a lunitic try to kill them thing.

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**Author:** ![stargazer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@stargazer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stargazer)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/111 "2009-11-06T00:35:26Z")

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> [@tumbleddown](#):
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> Our glimpse into the future at the _beginning_ of the last season leaves it up to viewers to decide if Josh and Donna are still a couple, but they’re definitely still close by the way that things are addressed.\*.

See, I think it’s pretty clear in the last few episodes that they are together (at least “for now” - we don’t know if they’re going to get married or anything).

Donna had been doing her whole, “you have 4 weeks” thing, they go on vacation together before Josh loses whatever sanity he has left, and then they wake up in the same bed at the beginning of Inauguration Day.

So it wasn’t explicit, but it was definitely implicit, IMO.

All that said, that show, its characters, and its stories were so good that they could have kept going for years, as far as I’m concerned. 🙂

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/112 "2009-11-06T14:23:22Z")

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> [@AndyPolley](#):
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> How about Dr. House & Dr. Cuddy? I know it seems like they will, but they really haven’t (except for one kiss, and that wierd dream House had.)
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> Or even House & Wilson?

Or Cuddy & Wilson.

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**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/113 "2009-11-06T14:31:46Z")

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Since _House_ is still on the air, we can’t know which couples may or may not get together by the end of the series finale.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/114 "2009-11-06T14:50:30Z")

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_Murphy Brown_ Murphy and Eldin, Corky and Miles, Murphy and Frank

Murphy and Frank may have hooked up in the past (backstory). I think Frank knew her a long time back in Murphy’s drinking days.

Eldin practically moved into Murphy’s house. He even babysit for her.

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**Author:** ![Wash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9dc877/32.png) [@Wash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wash)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-they-or-wont-they-couples-who-didnt/516118/115 "2009-11-06T15:02:40Z")

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Torg and Zoe in Sluggy Freelance, given that

Zoe was killed by Oasis just as she realized she had feelings for Torg.

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