# Will this lead to bipartisan gun control legislation?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 27, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965 "2017-02-27T18:55:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/41 "2017-03-03T16:11:52Z")

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When writing for the general public I try to write so my points can be understood by those with the reading comprehension level of a not particularly bright 8th grader who understands that context is an important part of communication.

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**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/42 "2017-03-04T00:35:22Z")

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For the record, I didn’t expect anybody on the Straight Dope Message Board to respond to this thread and say “Yes, I’m in favor of gun rights, but only for white people.” I clarify because apparently some of you think I’m talking about you personally.

In fact, I’m not even talking necessarily about gun owners. I’m talking about the large number of people in the US who are, either overtly, covertly, or even subconsciously racist. If they lean conservative, maybe they favor broad gun rights in the abstract. That could be true even if they’ve never held a gun in their lives.

I don’t really think that this will lead to bipartisan gun control legislation. It was a slightly sarcastic way of implying that more black people buying guns would make a lot of white people nervous who were not nervous before.

I’d also like to add: It’s amazing how all you have to do is mention that racism might be a problem in our society, and no matter where you are or what the context, a dozen white faces will pop up and wail “How dare you call me a racist?!?”

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/43 "2017-03-04T01:04:35Z")

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I think that the “widespread lobbying prowess” of the NRA is less attributable to its membership size than it is to the fact that every Congressperson knows that every one of those members owns a gun,

It will be interesting to see if the number of blacks shot while exercising their “right” to open carry is disproportionate to their numbers in society as a whole.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/44 "2017-03-04T04:43:56Z")

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> [@cuauhtemoc](#):
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> I’d also like to add: It’s amazing how all you have to do is mention that racism might be a problem in our society, and no matter where you are or what the context, a dozen white faces will pop up and wail “How dare you call me a racist?!?”

Its because you are calling them racist. See the paragraph that preceded this quote:

> [@cuauhtemoc](#):
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> I don’t really think that this will lead to bipartisan gun control legislation. It was a slightly sarcastic way of implying that more black people buying guns would make a lot of white people nervous who were not nervous before.

Do you think this isn’t calling people racist? You are implying that white people will be nervous as a result of black people buying guns. Because racism.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/45 "2017-03-04T05:07:05Z")

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> [@cuauhtemoc](#):
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> For years, sensible gun control legislation has been pretty much off the table. There’s a fringe group that opposes any restrictions on firearms at all, and they have managed to get a lot of people at least nominally on their side.
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> And now this: [http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/us/african-american-gun-club-trump/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/us/african-american-gun-club-trump/index.html)
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> Black people buying guns. Exercising their constitutional rights. Who could possibly be uncomfortable with something like that?
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> If this trend (if it is a trend) continues, how do you think it will affect popular support for gun control, if at all?

WOOHOO! More pro-2nd Amendment voters. I welcome each and every one of them.

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**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/46 "2017-03-04T05:47:36Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> WOOHOO! More pro-2nd Amendment voters. I welcome each and every one of them.

Amen to that!

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**Author:** ![drewder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@drewder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewder)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/47 "2017-03-04T19:06:03Z")

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Maybe they can give people a free gun with their obamaphone.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/48 "2017-03-13T23:39:24Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> The President of the N.R.A. was interviewed; his answers may not agree with this. [At one point he offers “mixed ethnicity” as the reason Americans kill each other with guns.](https://youtu.be/Q1iuEcu7O50?t=4m40s) Earlier in the interview [he points out that the 2nd Amendment was a right passed down by “wise old dead _ **white** _ guys”](https://youtu.be/Q1iuEcu7O50?t=3m2s) — his voice clearly emphasizes the “white.”

Well then, more proof that Wayne LaPierrre is a drooling moron, “race”/ethnic background/heritage should have NOTHING to do with eligibility to own a firearm

It’s bad enough that Federal Form 4473 has ethnicity breakdowns on it as well, that datum point should have nothing to do with firearm ownership.

-MacTech- firearm owner and former NRA member (I let it lapse because their marketing department constantly barrages their members to give them even _more_ money…)

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/49 "2017-03-13T23:50:47Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> Well then, more proof that Wayne LaPierrre is a drooling moron, “race”/ethnic background/heritage should have NOTHING to do with eligibility to own a firearm
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> It’s bad enough that Federal Form 4473 has ethnicity breakdowns on it as well, that datum point should have nothing to do with firearm ownership.
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> -MacTech- firearm owner and former NRA member (I let it lapse because their marketing department constantly barrages their members to give them even _more_ money…)

I refuse to be an NRA member these days because I would be sore from how hard I’d cringe every time Wayne LaPierre opens his mouth.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-this-lead-to-bipartisan-gun-control-legislation/780965/50 "2017-03-14T00:02:36Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Nothing will ever cause Republicans to consider any legislation not approved by their lords and masters at the NRA. Nothing. If someone shoots up a whole arena full of toddlers, well that’s just the price we have to pay for having guns. Think the next mass shooting will open any eyes? You’re dreaming.

That shows how little you know about conservatives.

I don’t think very highly of the NRA – I’m grateful for what they manage to do in defense of the Second Amendment, but they’re too liberal on a lot of points for my taste.

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