# Will Trump apologize?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 27, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885 "2011-04-27T13:13:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/21 "2011-04-27T17:33:49Z")

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> [@manila](#):
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> I’ve just done my once in a blue moon drop in on the freeper’s site to check their perspective.
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> My og! you couldn’t make it it up what they are saying.
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> ( not giving the link here as I don’t like linking to porno!)

The outpatients are out in force tonight.

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**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/22 "2011-04-27T17:55:52Z")

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No, Trump won’t apologize. No, it won’t end the conspiracy psychopaths.

Next up: [demands for his college transcripts](http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0411/The_shadow_of_race.html?showall).

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> Trump’s detour this morning into demands for Obama’s college grades, his suggestions that the president isn’t very bright and yet was somehow admitted to Columbia and Harvard despite that…

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/23 "2011-04-27T18:00:09Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> He’s trolling the crazies so that they make more noise and serve as a bigger embarrassment to the Republicans (who are stuck with the options of either continuing to pander to them and offending rational people, or telling them to shut up and offending their own base).

Maybe. Someone else pointed out that a book called “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” is out next week, and he just cut the legs out from under that one.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/24 "2011-04-27T18:45:22Z")

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> [@DJ\_Motorbike](#):
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> I don’t understand Obama. If there’s anyone who owes us an apology it’s him. He could have released the damn thing years ago. What the hell is his problem?

They couldn’t have done it years ago. Hawaii doesn’t have a mechanism to release the version they just put out. If you want verification, they send you the version that Obama posted online during the election.

Really, I agree with you in a sense, though; I don’t see what Obama gains by releasing the “long form” now. The birthers are just going to say, “why did it take so long?” or move the goalposts, and everyone else is just going to continue not caring.

ETA: On the other hand, maybe the California Bar will grow some balls and disbar Orly Taitz when she files her next lawsuit.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/25 "2011-04-27T19:06:59Z")

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> [@DJ\_Motorbike](#):
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> I don’t understand Obama. If there’s anyone who owes us an apology it’s him. He could have released the damn thing years ago. What the hell is his problem?

Maybe he didn’t think people were stupid enough to continue harping on this non-issue for three+ years.

Therefore, his problem was that he overestimated the intelligence of Birthers and Tea Party idiots. _Significantly_ overestimated.

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**Author:** ![Cyningablod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Cyningablod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyningablod)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/26 "2011-04-27T19:20:31Z")

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> [@DJ\_Motorbike](#):
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> It satisfies me. I’m not questioning his citizenship I’m questioning his judgment.

In other words:

_I will still find some way in all this to criticize Obama, rather than agreeing that he has been unjustly maligned, and laying the matter to rest._

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/27 "2011-04-27T19:28:25Z")

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If a video was found showing Ann Dunham Obama giving birth on the slopes of Diamond Head while a big brass band played “God Bless America” and fireworks spelling out U.S.A. were shot forth all around her there are still a few idjits who aren’t going to accept it. I don’t blame Obama at all for dragging his feet- I wouldn’t have done it now even- he’s not legally obligated to and it keeps conspiracy nuts occupied and distracts from any more justified criticisms.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/28 "2011-04-27T19:29:38Z")

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Will Trump apologize?

To quote the great dramatist, Will Smith, “Aw, HELL NO!”

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/29 "2011-04-27T19:30:20Z")

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_Should_ he apologize? Absolutely!

Will he? Never.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/30 "2011-04-27T19:44:26Z")

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Of course I believe that Donald Trump has as many doubts about the authenticity of the birth certificate as I have and that he’s about as interested in a serious run for president as I am in having cosmetic surgery to look like Don Knotts. He’s P.T. Barnum and while he might actually technically become a candidate (though I doubt he will) the first time it looks like he might win he’ll drop it quick. Though I do hope he has a debate first- I think this stunt has already backfired in that the few “hard” questions he’s been asked all make him look like a blithering idiot. (He can’t answer them without going into some self aggrandizing anecdote about Trump this or Trump that, and he can’t even keep straight what he owns and what he doesn’t when he does that [e.g. he claimed to own a huge condo tower in Waikiki that in fact is just managed by a Trump company]).

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/31 "2011-04-27T19:49:24Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Someone else pointed out that a book called “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” is out next week, and he just cut the legs out from under that one.

[Yes.](http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Birth-Certificate-Eligible-President/dp/1936488299) Pretty great timing on that score. 😛

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/32 "2011-04-27T20:17:39Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> [Yes.](http://www.amazon.com/Wheres-Birth-Certificate-Eligible-President/dp/1936488299) Pretty great timing on that score. 😛

I’m picturing a WHERE’S WALDO? but with piles of documents.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/33 "2011-04-27T20:32:19Z")

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> [@DJ\_Motorbike](#):
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> Which is exactly what the nutters are going to say.
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> It satisfies me. I’m not questioning his citizenship I’m questioning his judgment.
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> I just don’t understand Obama.

What Trump proved was that the original birth certificate that Obama released was correct and true. Who wasted the time? It was the rightys who kept insisting that he was covering something up. The long form simply proves the short one he gave 3 years ago was valid . How is that Obama’s fault. If they said, oh Ok, he has a legal birth certificate, lets move on. But that was not good enough for right wing conspiracy nuts. They fought for 3 damn years and the proof was in the first one given. Don’t blame Obama for not playing with the children of the right. It was all their fault and they were wrong. Figure them out, not Obama he always acts like the adult when dealing with the right.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/34 "2011-04-27T21:49:47Z")

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> [@manila](#):
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> I’ve just done my once in a blue moon drop in on the freeper’s site to check their perspective.
> 
> My og! you couldn’t make it it up what they are saying.
> 
> ( not giving the link here as I don’t like linking to porno!)

Against my better judgement I took a look (I feel dirty now).  
Irrefutable proof that the certificate is a fake:

- The name of the hospital is allegedly incorrect.
- It looks like two different typewiters were used.
- His father’s race would have read “NEGRO” and not “AFRICAN”.
- The .pdf file containing the document can be opened using PhotoShop! (my personal favorite)

I’m sure there’s more, but I had to stop reading.  
Stupid people are stupid.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/35 "2011-04-28T00:11:07Z")

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[The Onion says it best.](http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-unable-to-produce-certificate-proving-hes-no,20250/)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/36 "2011-04-28T16:14:20Z")

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You must admit that [his apology](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/28/donald-trump-obama-birth-certificate_n_854830.html) sounds extremely sincere.

[Daily Show video](http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-27-2011/believe-it-or-believe-it---obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate)

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/37 "2011-04-28T16:37:12Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Maybe. Someone else pointed out that a book called “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” is out next week, and he just cut the legs out from under that one.

ms maddow mentioned this on her show last night. the book isn’t out yet, but it is top selling in pre-orders.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/38 "2011-04-29T18:02:10Z")

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> [@RyJae](#):
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> Yeah I see Trump is now taking credit for it, now one can only imagine the next thing he throws against the wall to see if it sticks. I am _not_ an President Obama supporter. But I think The Donald has really hurt any Republicans by association. The real conspiracy theory would be is he in cahoots with the President.

If the Republican leadership had some balls, and said that Obama was born in the US, not just that he says he was, they would not be hurt. But they seem to be afraid of offending their lunatic fringe, and so Trump, with nothing to lose but his ratings, moved right in. So, any Republicans hurt have no one to blame but themselves.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/39 "2011-04-29T18:15:12Z")

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Highlights from his [most recent speech](http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/29/trumps-f-bomb-tirade/).

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> “They (OPEC) want to go in and raise the price of oil because we have nobody in Washington that sits back and says you’re not going to raise that fucking price, you understand me?”

And, on what he would tell China,

> [@](#):
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> "Listen you motherfuckers, we’re going to tax you 25 percent.”

This guy is TOUGH! You tell 'em Donald! And after all, what’s the absolute worst that could happen from telling Saudi Arabia and China to go fuck themselves? Yep, he’s got balls to say this straight to the face of (people who will be voting for the president who will engage with) the leaders of other super powerful nations.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-apologize/579885/40 "2011-04-29T18:21:43Z")

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Once Trump learns that they won’t allow him to paint his name in bright neon on the White House roof, he won’t run. He’s just a publicity hound schmuck.

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