# Will Trump call The Pope "A Loser"? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 18, 2016, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470 "2016-02-18T18:25:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/21 "2016-02-18T23:18:22Z")
> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#): > > Well, not _whenever_ you want. You can only walk in when St. Peter’s or the Vatican Museum are open. And even then, you can only walk into those two places. If you try to enter the rest of the Vatican, any time, you _will_ be asked questions. OK, fair enough. New border rules: anyone gets to walk into the United States during normal business hours, but no shorts. Good? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/22 "2016-02-18T23:19:57Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > Two things: > > 1. It’s not > 2. You can walk into Vatican City whenever you want without anyone asking you anything. Can millions settle in that city and receive state benefits? ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/23 "2016-02-18T23:28:37Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Can millions settle in that city and receive state benefits? I don’t know, but I didn’t make the initial irrelevant comparison. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/24 "2016-02-18T23:59:54Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Who will be the one to mock the funny thing on the other’s head first? > [@](#): > > About 15 years ago, I said something nasty on CNN about Donald Trump’s hair. I can’t now remember the context, assuming there was one. In any case, Trump saw it and left a message the next day. > > “It’s true you have better hair than I do,” Trump said matter-of-factly. “But I get more pussy than you do.” Click. – [Tucker Carlson](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572) And a Pope is always vulnerable on that point. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/25 "2016-02-19T00:36:21Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I think Trump may have bitten off more than he can chew, this time. You’ve got a guy who has drawn universal praise for every move he’s made since taking office, and has a billion followers. Not someone you’d want to pick a fight with. That’s the plan. Get hated to drop the numbers to avoid the nomination, then peddle new book about how the GOP smeared him. ---
**Author:** ![Grsz11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grsz11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grsz11)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/26 "2016-02-19T00:37:31Z")
To anyone with more than half a brain, it’s obvious the Pope was speaking figuratively. Christians build bridges, not walls. And not a wall between the US and Mexico, but a wall between Americans and Hispanics or between Muslims and non-Muslims. ---
**Author:** ![nani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/58956e/32.png) [@nani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nani)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/27 "2016-02-19T01:06:49Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Surely a polymath of TRUMP’s prowess is already quite familiar with such details of the Vatican’s history. His eidetic memory and keen understanding of the historical record are just one facet of the precious jewel that is TRUMP’s incontrovertible, unprecedented and boundless genius. My loins quiver with anticipation for the Day of Reckoning when TRUMP lays waste to all his Mammonite Kochsucking cuck fucklick Gumpesque enemies with a single arch of his brow and ushers in a new thousand-year era of prosperity and American exceptionalism and sweet revenge on those stupid jocks who stuffed me into my locker. What a wondrous occasion that I meet someone whose loins react in a fashion so reminiscent of mine own! > [@GrandWino](#): > > Hey, I read [TPM](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/this-should-go-well--6)too! Well technically the walls Pope Leo IV ordered built weren’t the “original Vatican City walls”, they were built around a significantly larger part of Rome on the Vatican Hill that was not within by the original Aurelian wall, called afterwards [the Leonine City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonine_City). Vatican City as a distinct entity dates to the 1929 Lateran Treaty. But yeah, TPM reminded me of this factoid 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/28 "2016-02-19T02:24:08Z")
> [@Grsz11](#): > > To anyone with more than half a brain, it’s obvious the Pope was speaking figuratively. Christians build bridges, not walls. “See this pontoon over the Tiber? I built it with me own 'ands I did. But do they call me Francis the Chief Bridge Builder? Oh wait, they do. Nevermind…” ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/29 "2016-02-19T02:30:48Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And just _look_ at how effective they are at keeping the Italians out! Would that they be as effective in keeping the Pope _in_! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/30 "2016-02-19T03:34:26Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > – [Tucker Carlson](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-is-shocking-vulgar-and-right-213572) > > And a Pope is always vulnerable on that point. Just think if Trump had said, “Ass”. Excuse me. I need to go pack my bags for HELL! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/31 "2016-02-19T04:50:50Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Man, I just know there’s got to be a Like button here somewhere … 😃 Plus, the percentage of the population who is of white/European ancestry is higher in Argentina than the US. That can only mean one thing: most of them are already in this country! We should deport them to an island. Some place where they can take over and live and not cause trouble. Maybe the Falklands, they’d hate to live there. > [@octopus](#): > > Can millions settle in that city and receive state benefits? What’s worse is that the Democrap government will tell you that there are up to 2 Popes living in the Holy See. Yet what they don’t tell you about all the undocumented Popes. There are [almost 12 Popes per square mile of the Vatican](http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2%2F%28area+of+vatican+city+in+square+miles%29)! Or [4.5 if you’re [del]from another country[/del] a potential MexiCommie terrorist](http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2%2F%28area+of+vatican+city+in+square+kilometers%29). ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/32 "2016-02-19T06:14:00Z")
It’s old news, but speaking of Trump and the Pope…this is supposedly what Trump Tweeted when Francis first took office: “The new Pope is a humble man, very much like me, which probably explains why I like him so much!” It sounds a little Oniony. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/33 "2016-02-19T06:37:47Z")
**Will Trump call The Pope “A Loser”?** Hard to do that, when the Pope has won one more election than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/34 "2016-02-19T07:10:19Z")
So Trumpy calls out Cruz: > [@Orange Guy](#): > > “How can Ted Cruz be an Evangelical Christian when he lies so much and is so dishonest?” And then counters Frankie Pope with: > [@Same Orange Guy](#): > > “No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith.” Stil not a politician, but probably christian. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/35 "2016-02-19T08:05:32Z")
Jerrry Falwell, Jr. [weighed in on Pope v. Trump](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jerry-falwell-jr-religion-politics_us_56c6182ae4b0c3c5505420c8): > [@](#): > > “Jesus never intended to give instructions to political leaders on how to run a country,” Falwell said in an interview with CNN. Oh, the irony! ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/36 "2016-02-19T14:37:55Z")
Never will be one to apologize for Trump, but re: his initial comment, he could have used a lot worse words. I can see how one could contend that a religious leader’s comments on political campaigns “lacked grace.” ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/37 "2016-02-19T14:57:30Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > I think Trump may have bitten off more than he can chew, this time. You’ve got a guy who has drawn universal praise for every move he’s made since taking office, and has a billion followers. Not someone you’d want to pick a fight with. Yes, surely _this_ will be the thing that derails the Trump campaign! And I might actually believe it if it hadn’t been said every other day about whatever stunt Trump most recently pulled. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/38 "2016-02-19T15:11:17Z")
My take was that by Trumpish standards his tweet showed more finesse and humor than most of his bombast to date. Yes, it was heavy on metaphor and light on facts, while still being superficially true-ish. Political speech is always that way. IMO, our boy is learning how to play this game. Unfortunately. Side Q: Were Trump to be elected, would he be the most hair-challenged president in history? Other than Ike of course who was stone bald. I think Trump might indeed be the Greatest at that. Note I’m talking about failure of functioning follicles, not grandiosity of comb-over or toupee. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/39 "2016-02-19T15:27:50Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Side Q: Were Trump to be elected, would he be the most hair-challenged president in history? Other than Ike of course who was stone bald. I think Trump might indeed be the Greatest at that. Note I’m talking about failure of functioning follicles, not grandiosity of comb-over or toupee. Not sure I understand your last sentence. In terms of failing follicles as you say there are any number of baldies that have him beat. (J.Q. Adams, anyone?) The uniqueness of Trump isn’t that he’s losing his hair, it’s the “grandiosity” of his comb-over. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470/40 "2016-02-19T16:03:48Z")
> [@Grsz11](#): > > To anyone with more than half a brain… Well, there goes the entire Republican field. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-call-the-pope-a-loser/746470.md?page=3)