# Will Trump kill himself on January 20? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 3, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593 "2021-01-03T20:31:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/242 "2021-01-13T03:44:45Z")
If he shoots himself on 5th Avenue, he’ll not only not lose supporters, he’ll gain a massive number of new supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/243 "2021-01-13T03:50:36Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > If he shoots himself on 5th Avenue Maybe _that_ will be enough for the Republicans to impeach him. Assassination of a president. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/244 "2021-01-13T04:18:21Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Maybe _that_ will be enough for the Republicans to impeach him. Assassination of a president. And then, years from now, some smart-ass on whatever passes for a message board in the year 2134 will say: “You know, Trump wasn’t so bad (pause). After all, he killed Trump!” Some jokes will never get old. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/245 "2021-01-13T06:21:55Z")
I think it’s more likely that he’ll run away to some foreign land with no extradition to the U.S. and lots of golf courses. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/246 "2021-01-13T06:24:18Z")
How about South Africa? They speak English and have a lot of golf courses. Somebody should show him some pictures, tell Trump it’s run by white supremacists who’d love him, he probably doesn’t know any different. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/247 "2021-01-13T06:32:09Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > How about South Africa? Nope. Treaty signed September 16, 1999 Entered into Force June 25, 2001 TIAS 13060 ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/248 "2021-01-13T06:34:49Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > TIAS 13060 Well, I have a feeling maybe it’s no longer run by white supremacists either. Or is that one of those Mandela effect things that didn’t really happen? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/249 "2021-01-13T06:34:51Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > some foreign land with no extradition to the U.S. Russia has no treaty, but I don’t think likely. I’ve always put my money on Saudi Arabia. Some rich prince would love to have a pet president in his compound. Put him in a room with one way mirrors, lots of tacky gold fixtures and get your buddies to come around and watch what he does when you throw hamberders into his cage. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/250 "2021-01-13T06:55:17Z")
Here’s a list of countries with no extradition treaties: > **[Extradition law in the United States | Extradition to the United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_the_United_States#Extradition_to_the_United_States)** > > The federal structure of the United States can pose particular problems with respect to extraditions when the police power and the power of foreign relations are held at different levels of the federal hierarchy. For instance, in the United States, most criminal prosecutions occur at the state level, and most foreign relations occur at the federal level. In fact, under the United States Constitution, foreign countries may not have official treaty relations with sub-national units such as individu... Maybe Indonesia? They have golf courses. Although it’s full of Asians. Muslim Asians. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/251 "2021-01-13T06:56:01Z")
Saudi Arabia is my bet also. In a combination of arrogance and cultural disconnect, MbS will think that Trump’s presence will bring certain useful practicalities and will be a net positive, and will tacitly endorse his using the country as a refuge. Then he’ll get a sustained close-up view of the Trump phenomenon, and regret his decision. At that point, things will get very interesting. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/252 "2021-01-13T08:14:00Z")
How likely is it that Trump would be admitted to any foreign country under current coronavirus restrictions? Scotland has already said they would deny him entry. ---
**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/253 "2021-01-13T14:22:28Z")
We don’t want him here! Although amongst right-wing white South Africans there are a lot who like to go on about how great Trump is. God knows why. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/254 "2021-01-13T14:26:38Z")
Ironically, the grey part looks like a map of Trump’s “shithole” countries. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/255 "2021-01-13T14:35:18Z")
For folks suggesting Saudi Arabia, I’d remind them to remember Dubai. The UAE also has no extradition treaty with the US, and it has a Trump International golf club. Think back to how many palms Jared Kushner has been greasing in the Gulf States, specifically UAE. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. Also worth noting that nothing prevents a country from extraditing even if they don’t have a treaty, and there are a number of ways that treaty countries can refuse to extradite. So that complicates the picture a bit. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/256 "2021-01-13T14:56:14Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@Mahaloth](#): > > > > “Nice try, Harris, there are no more bullets in that gun.” > > “I demand a recount! One plus two plus one plus one…” How about: > I know what you’re thinking, Trump. Did she fire six shots or only five? Well I gotta admit in all the confusion I lost count myself. So now you’ve got to ask yourself a question. “Do ya feel lucky, punk?” Well?? … Do ya? … Punk? > > **Blam!** > [@cochrane](#): > > How likely is it that Trump would be admitted to any foreign country under current coronavirus restrictions? Scotland has already said they would deny him entry. Ordinary rules don’t apply to fat cats and ex-Presidents. Or at least they don’t apply _unless the host country leadership wants them to_. Scotland has said they intend to apply their COVID restrictions to Trump were he to try to go there. Conversely, the Saudis, or whoever, could easily approve an individual exception on “humanitarian” or “political persecuted refugee” grounds if they wanted to. Bottom line: The “rules” that apply to you and I are irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/257 "2021-01-13T15:19:28Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’ve always put my money on Saudi Arabia. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > Ordinary rules don’t apply to fat cats and ex-Presidents. Or at least they don’t apply _unless the host country leadership wants them to_ . For Saudi Arabia, Russia or any other countries with authoritarian governments, while Trump’s comforts might be present, how do these countries feel about criticism from someone who is always complaining and never shuts up? What happens the first time Trump tries to do something and is blocked by the local authorities? He goes online and starts talking shit about the regime… a regime which happily kills people who speak out against it. He can’t count on the Senate to protect him from MBS’ hit squads or Russia’s novichok-soiled drawers. And now Trump is known as someone who has tried to start a domestic insurrection. Well if he’ll do it in the US he’ll most certainly do it (or at least try it) elsewhere so why would any of these countries welcome such trouble? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/258 "2021-01-13T15:37:28Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > He goes online I think I found the hole in your plan. His access to any online chat or other apps will be severely restricted by such regimes. That is, assuming that the online apps even allow Trump back on their platforms at any point. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/259 "2021-01-13T15:40:11Z")
I hope Trump lives long enough that when he googles himself each morning, the only hits he gets is for the History Channel. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/260 "2021-01-13T16:56:33Z")
“Next on the History Channel: Donald Trump, the most failed and loser president in history” ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/261 "2021-01-13T17:21:45Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Ordinary rules don’t apply to fat cats and ex-Presidents. Or at least they don’t apply _unless the host country leadership wants them to_ . > [@DWMarch](#): > > And now Trump is known as someone who has tried to start a domestic insurrection. Well if he’ll do it in the US he’ll most certainly do it (or at least try it) elsewhere so why would any of these countries welcome such trouble? Not only an insurrectionist, but such a disgrace that by the time he’s out of office, he’ll be the only president who was impeached twice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593.md?page=14)