# Will Trump kill himself on January 20? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 3, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593 "2021-01-03T20:31:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/262 "2021-01-13T17:46:28Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Also worth noting that nothing prevents a country from extraditing even if they don’t have a treaty, and there are a number of ways that treaty countries can refuse to extradite. So that complicates the picture a bit. Yep. Fleeing to a “no-extradition-treaty-country” isn’t some sort of get-out-of-jail free card. It just means that the government of that country decides whether the benefit of letting you stay outweighs the costs. And given that his financial assets would be frozen, his complete disinterest in his own intelligence briefings, and that the Biden Administration would undoubtedly sanction any country harboring him, I just don’t see any country calculating that he’s worth the hassle. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/263 "2021-01-13T17:55:22Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Fleeing to a “no-extradition-treaty-country” isn’t some sort of get-out-of-jail free card. It just means that the government of that country decides whether the benefit of letting you stay outweighs the costs. Probably not a perfect analogy, but I’m reminded of Julian Assange, who spent seven years in the Ecuadoran embassy in London, having been granted asylum by Ecuador – Sweden was seeking to extradite him on sexual assault charges, which could have led to his further extradition to the U.S. But, eventually, Assange pissed off the Ecudadoran government enough (and/or became a bargaining chip for the Ecuadoran goverment to receive an IMF loan) that they revoked his asylum, and allowed the British authorities to enter the embassy and arrest him. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/264 "2021-01-13T18:52:25Z")
> [@Deeg](#): > > “Next on the History Channel: Donald Trump, the most failed and loser president in history” Followed by “Special presentation; The top 10 failures of the Trump administration. You won’t believe #4!!!” ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/265 "2021-01-14T00:56:41Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Also worth noting that nothing prevents a country from extraditing even if they don’t have a treaty, and there are a number of ways that treaty countries can refuse to extradite. So that complicates the picture a bit. Sure. I know that, and you know that, but does Trump know that? And if someone tells him, will he believe them? Would he be able to admit to himself that some other country wouldn’t be thrilled to have him living there? This discussion brings to mind my favorite episode of The Closer, “Good Housekeeping.” It involves some of the complexities of extradition (obviously, since I’m thinking of it). If you’re looking for a satisfying hour of TV, check it out. ---
**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/266 "2021-01-14T01:55:29Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > I would be utterly delighted if Chump killed himself. Move over. You’re not allowed to hog that delight by yourself. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/267 "2021-01-14T02:04:05Z")
> [@Mallard](#): > > > [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > > > I would be utterly delighted if Chump killed himself. > > Move over. You’re not allowed to hog that delight by yourself. - Grab a spot early. The Fire Marshall says occupancy is limited to 275 million. ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/268 "2021-01-14T03:03:20Z")
Imagine Trump living in a Muslim country; there’s just no shortage of irony around him. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/269 "2021-01-14T07:43:04Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > audi Arabia is my bet also. In a combination of arrogance and cultural disconnect, MbS will think that Trump’s presence will bring certain useful practicalities and will be a net positive, and will tacitly endorse his using the country as a refuge. Then he’ll get a sustained close-up view of the Trump phenomenon, and regret his decision. At that point, things will get very interesting. As in diplomats with bone saws? ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/270 "2021-01-14T12:46:18Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Sure. I know that, and you know that, but does Trump know that? And if someone tells him, will he believe them? I would imagine he’s still got at least one paralegal who can do a Google search, print it out, and say “no go here. jail bad.” Anybody’s guess whether he’d listen or not. Once again we have to remember that to avoid jail, he would pull any string, grease any palm, blacken any mail. He’s not a smart man, but he’s a wizard at corruption, and he’s been the most powerful man in the world for 4 years now. I think it would be foolish to expect that he (or his proxies) haven’t at least attempted to prepare the ground for a soft landing somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/271 "2021-01-14T13:03:26Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I would imagine he’s still got at least one paralegal who can do a Google search, print it out, and say “no go here. jail bad.” Anybody’s guess whether he’d listen or not. Pop a copy of [Midnight Express](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077928/) into the DVD player. Some countries don’t have a Club Fed. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/272 "2021-01-14T16:04:32Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I would imagine he’s still got at least one paralegal who can do a Google search, print it out, and say “no go here. jail bad.” Anybody’s guess whether he’d listen or not. It’s widely reported that during the many daily President meetings he paid not the slightest attention to anyhting the word “Trump” was in the sentence or on the page. So your warning, as written, would go unheeded. Let us hope … ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/273 "2021-01-14T16:22:11Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > It’s widely reported that during the many daily President meetings he paid not the slightest attention to anyhting the word “Trump” was in the sentence or on the page.- Like this? [![](https://desertdemocrat.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/gary-larson-far-side-cartoon-what-we-say-to-dogs-blah-blah-ginger.jpeg) ](https://desertdemocrat.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/gary-larson-far-side-cartoon-what-we-say-to-dogs-blah-blah-ginger.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/274 "2021-01-14T23:01:53Z")
Yes, @ThelmaLou; exactly like that. Nice work decoding my mangled C&P edit job. It should have read: > [@LSLGuy](#): > > It’s widely reported that during the many daily President meetings he paid not the slightest attention to ~~anyhting~~ anything unless the word “Trump” was in the sentence or on the page. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/275 "2021-01-15T05:44:45Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I think it would be foolish to expect that he (or his proxies) haven’t at least attempted to prepare the ground for a soft landing somewhere This is my guess. I’ve been expecting him to for the country for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/276 "2021-01-15T05:50:18Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I’ve been expecting him to for the country for a while. Must… resist… obvious… joke. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/277 "2021-01-15T05:52:29Z")
Huh, i wonder how my phone turned “flee” into “for”. I guess if you wobble the y coordinate. ---
**Author:** ![Ponderoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponderoid/32/19221_2.png) [@Ponderoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponderoid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/278 "2021-01-15T05:54:53Z")
I thought there was a missing word or words before the “for” just like LSLGuy’s post was missing a critical word, and there are some choice words I can think of that could have gone in there. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/279 "2021-01-16T05:01:07Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > > [@Cervaise](#): > > > > audi Arabia is my bet also. In a combination of arrogance and cultural disconnect, MbS will think that Trump’s presence will bring certain useful practicalities and will be a net positive, and will tacitly endorse his using the country as a refuge. Then he’ll get a sustained close-up view of the Trump phenomenon, and regret his decision. At that point, things will get very interesting. > > As in diplomats with bone saws? Kushner has a lot of connections in that part of the world. Somewhere in the book Fire and Fury, one of those shysters, I don’t remember which one, quipped that Kushner was the perfect person to handle Mid-East policy because “he knew all the crooks in Israel”. He wasn’t joking The press was not too hard on the Trump/Kushner cartel. They probably could’ve run a feature a week on the associates of the crime dynasty running the Executive branch, but they didn’t want to look like they were picking on him and there were so many other things. > **[Bribe Cases, a Jared Kushner Partner and Potential Conflicts (Published 2017)](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/26/us/politics/jared-kushner-beny-steinmetz.html)** > > President Trump’s son-in-law, a top adviser, had help building a real estate empire from a member of one of Israel’s wealthiest families. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/280 "2021-01-25T10:08:27Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Think back to how many palms Jared Kushner has been greasing in the Gulf States, specifically UAE. I’d been _wondering_ how they got the leaves so shiny! ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/281 "2021-02-21T00:43:18Z")
This wouldn’t surprise me either. It’s been almost a month since you posted this, and he seems to have been largely forgotten, which is OK with me. Over the years, I’ve heard and seen from a few conspiracy theorists that FDR’s “cerebral hemorrhage” was actually a self-inflicted gunshot wound. because he was so despondent over the results of the Yalta conference. Yeah, like a secret like that could have been kept for 75 years. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593.md?page=15)