# Will Trump kill himself on January 20? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 3, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593 "2021-01-03T20:31:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/21 "2021-01-03T21:52:47Z")
The damage that Trump has done–and I agree that he has inflicted serious damage on the reputation and functioning of the federal government, as most exemplified by the public health dumpster fire of government response to the pandemic–is a result of long-standing schisms in American society and the engineered distrust in all government by self-identified radical conservatives. Trump inflamed and exploited this, but not very competently or even deliberately for the most part. His bumblefuck turn at being the chief executive of the nation instead of one of his failing business enterprises mostly resulted in a bunch of churn but no butter, and some of the dramatic failings of pillars of the conservative moment like the self-immolation of the NRA are in large measure that they no longer had a bogeyman to scare people into believing that the government was coming for all of their guns and most of their money. The elevator pitch for Trump’s White House was basically _Arrested Development_ meets _VEEP_, with a dash of _Heil Honey, I’m Home!_ And we’re not talking about original series _Arrested Development_ but the [Netflix revival series](https://youtu.be/d-iE1bHMFCE). Hillary Clinton would have been demonized into being Satan Incarnate and probably goaded into open military interventions; instead we got racial protests that dwarfed conservative and fascist displays, a few dozen miles of “Wall”, and a reputation for being a nation that doesn’t live up to its commitments and deliberately separates immigrant children from parents, which isn’t great but it is a long way from societal collapse, and in some ways really highlighted the effects of inequalities that most middle class Americans didn’t previously understand or care about. There are plenty of other existential threats to the United States as a nation but Donald Trump is just the tick on the ear of a coon hound that is baying and shitting on your porch every morning. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/22 "2021-01-03T22:11:21Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > No. He’ll run away. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > Trump is a sociopath. He’ll kill us all before he kills himself. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Trump’s modus operandi is to blame everyone else for his troubles > [@Aspenglow](#): > > Getting back to suicide, it’s the _last_ thing I expect Trump to do. In Trump’s world, nothing is more important than the well being of Trump. All of the above, squared. ---
**Author:** ![Kelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@Kelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/23 "2021-01-03T22:27:23Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > > [@SenorBeef](#): > > > > I have no research to support this, but I suspect it’s very rare for narcissists to kill themselves. They’re too important, they’re the star of this show, they explain away shame and blame everyone else. I can’t imagine Trump doing it because he’d have to acknowledge the reality of how shitty he is and how much he’s fucked, and the narcissism/delusion/pathological lying would negate it. I would bet something like 10:1 against Trump killing himself. > > I was going to post this, too. Trump is too much of a narcissist to kill himself. In his own mind, he is never wrong. Agree. I think he’s already convinced himself that he won the election, just has to do his “art of the deal” phone calls to make it happen. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/24 "2021-01-03T22:34:08Z")
This, as with all such questions about what Trump will do, must be answered with: Trump is a weenie. He will bluster, he will threaten, he will throw a tantrum, he will bully, he will shout and gather his acolytes, but he will never do anything that comes as a physical cost to himself or requires him to take decisive action. I said this throughout 2020 and was never wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/25 "2021-01-03T22:37:08Z")
I’m speculating on a murder-suicide involving Chump and Melania, with the authorities finding it impossible to tell who was the shooter. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/26 "2021-01-03T22:40:30Z")
> [@Kelby](#): > > Agree. I think he’s already convinced himself that he won the election, just has to do his “art of the deal” phone calls to make it happen. “Hey Georgia, find me a couple thousand votes, or things will go really bad for you. Nice state you’ve got here. Shame if things got broken.” ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/27 "2021-01-03T22:42:56Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I have no research to support this, but I suspect it’s very rare for narcissists to kill themselves. > [@Aspenglow](#): > > Getting back to suicide, it’s the _last_ thing I expect Trump to do. In Trump’s world, nothing is more important than the well being of Trump. It’s not as rare as you might think for a narcissist to kill themselves. As a narcissist, Trump is pretty obviously going through this right now: > **[Narcissistic injury](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury)** > > In psychology, narcissistic injury, also known as narcissistic wound or wounded ego, is emotional trauma that overwhelms an individual's defense mechanisms and devastates their pride and self-worth. In some cases, the shame or disgrace is so significant that the individual can never again truly feel good about who they are. This is sometimes referred to as a "narcissistic scar". > Freud maintained that "losses in love" and "losses associated with failure" often leave behind injury to an individual... When the lashing out in anger no longer has any outlet, when he’s kicked out on January 20th; if the MAGA fuckwits then start to lose interest and move on to a new figurehead; if he’s branded a loser, if his crimes are fully exposed and he’s facing humiliation and prison. There’s certainly a psychological path for a narcissist to fall into depression and to suicide. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/28 "2021-01-03T22:46:49Z")
Exactly, why would he kill himself when _we’re_ the ones who failed _him_? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/29 "2021-01-03T22:54:34Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > There’s certainly a psychological path for a narcissist to fall into depression and to suicide. Yeah, but that doesn’t address his cowardice. He likes to play a tough guy, but he’s a weenie. Put another way, he doesn’t have the huevos to kill himself. I guess he could just order Stephen Miller to do it for him. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/30 "2021-01-03T22:57:17Z")
We’re not going to see him jump off Trump Tower, but If he falls into depression it doesn’t take much bravery to do it with drugs, which with his resources he could easily access. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/31 "2021-01-03T22:57:40Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Exactly, why would he kill himself when _we’re_ the ones who failed _him_ ? Just the 74 million illegal voters. Other than that, he’s very popular. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads, they all adore him. They think he’s a righteous dude. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/32 "2021-01-03T23:10:51Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Trump is a sociopath. He’ll kill us all before he kills himself. This. And I’m still worried hell find a way to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/33 "2021-01-03T23:11:24Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > We’re not going to see him jump off Trump Tower, but If he falls into depression it doesn’t take much bravery to do it with drugs, which with his resources he could easily access. That’s a fair point. Or I guess they could just house him at Metropolitan Correctional Center in NYC. Things… happen there. In all seriousness, I think he’ll bounce before the walls close in completely. Neither Saudi Arabia or Russia have extradition treaties with the US. They do deal rather harshly with people who fall out of favor, though. There’s always UAE or Brunei. Oh, I know. The Maldives. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/34 "2021-01-03T23:25:06Z")
I can see him flee to another country and the QAnon nut jobs insist that it’s part of his grand plan to take down the Deep State, this time as a puppet master remotely working with his crack team of infiltrators. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/35 "2021-01-03T23:28:59Z")
I wouldn’t, mainly because of Barron. No kid deserves to experience something like that. All along, I have speculated that Trump might indeed commit suicide if and when the house of cards collapsed, and few people have agreed with me. Like I just said, I don’t WANT that to happen, but if it did, I wouldn’t be surprised, either. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/36 "2021-01-03T23:33:55Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > > [@Riemann](#): > > > > There’s certainly a psychological path for a narcissist to fall into depression and to suicide. > > Yeah, but that doesn’t address his cowardice. He likes to play a tough guy, but he’s a weenie. Put another way, he doesn’t have the huevos to kill himself. > > **I guess he could just order Stephen Miller to do it for him.** - And he’ll pardon him after. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/37 "2021-01-03T23:35:41Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > In all seriousness, I think he’ll bounce before the walls close in completely. Neither Saudi Arabia or Russia have extradition treaties with the US. They do deal rather harshly with people who fall out of favor, though. There’s always UAE or Brunei. Oh, I know. The Maldives. Nobody wants him and he’s too far in debt to buy citizenship in a country that won’t extradite him back to the US. Trump is probably going to self-pardon and then hide himself away in his penthouse like a cut-rate Bond villain, insisting that any investigation is just a “witch hunt” and trying to get a call though to _Fox & Friends_, who will collectively pretend that they have a bad connection. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/38 "2021-01-03T23:38:43Z")
I predict he will spend the whole of 2021 on a grievance tour doing rallies with his diehard supporters but he will eventually get bored of it and try his hand at another tv show always hinting at a 2024 rematch but not really going ahead with it. I strongly think he despises the kind of people in his crowds because, well, for all his life he made a show of wanting to be in the ‘it’ club with the rich and powerful. Howard Stern said he’d hate to have those kind of people in his crowds stay at his hotels and I’m inclined to believe. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/39 "2021-01-04T00:11:04Z")
No, I don’t think Trump would commit suicide. I also don’t think he’ll go to prison or be arrested. I think he’ll do rallies, call himself the “real president”, get away with everything, and die with zero personal consequences for his actions. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/40 "2021-01-04T00:21:12Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > I think he’ll do rallies, call himself the “real president”, get away with everything, and die with zero personal consequences for his actions. …and in great wealth and luxury. Evil pays. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593.md?page=3)