# Will Trump kill himself on January 20?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 3, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593 "2021-01-03T20:31:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/41 "2021-01-04T00:21:54Z")

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> [@Boycott](#):
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> I predict he will spend the whole of 2021 on a grievance tour

“The Trump Covid Death Tour”

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/42 "2021-01-04T00:23:53Z")

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I hate thread titles that momentarily get my hopes up for nothing.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/43 "2021-01-04T00:24:18Z")

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> [@Boycott](#):
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> I strongly think he despises the kind of people in his crowds because, well, for all his life he made a show of wanting to be in the ‘it’ club with the rich and powerful. Howard Stern said he’d hate to have those kind of people in his crowds stay at his hotels and I’m inclined to believe

[Cite, from May 2020](https://deadline.com/2020/05/howard-stern-donald-trump-despises-maga-supporters-1202933838/).

> **[Howard Stern Says Donald Trump “Despises” MAGA Voters, Thinks President...](https://deadline.com/2020/05/howard-stern-donald-trump-despises-maga-supporters-1202933838/)**
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> The SiriusXM radio host says his longtime friend prefers hanging out with celebrities and should step down as president.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/44 "2021-01-04T00:24:39Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Nobody wants him and he’s too far in debt to buy citizenship in a country that won’t extradite him back to the US. Trump is probably going to self-pardon and then hide himself away in his penthouse like a cut-rate Bond villain, insisting that any investigation is just a “witch hunt” and **trying to get a call though to _Fox & Friends_ , who will collectively pretend that they have a bad connection**.

Bolded part cracked me right up. 🙂 And you’re probably right.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/45 "2021-01-04T00:24:58Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> …and in great wealth and luxury. Evil pays.

And German bankers always collect their debts. I think his bubble of inflated riches will collapse when the foreclosures come rolling in.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/46 "2021-01-04T00:26:32Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> [Cite, from May 2020](https://deadline.com/2020/05/howard-stern-donald-trump-despises-maga-supporters-1202933838/).

[You can listen to Stern here talk about this. It’s right on.](https://youtu.be/byKbem-B99M) Trump hates these people, but they are the only ones dumb enough to give him his adoration.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/47 "2021-01-04T00:32:18Z")

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Out of all the possibilities, I see this one as extremely unlikely, at least a 1 / 10^6 or lower. Trump is WAY too much of a narcissist to go that route.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/48 "2021-01-04T00:37:07Z")

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> [@Boycott](#):
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> I strongly think he despises the kind of people in his crowds because, well, for all his life he made a show of wanting to be in the ‘it’ club with the rich and powerful. Howard Stern said he’d hate to have those kind of people in his crowds stay at his hotels and I’m inclined to believe.

He may hate the people in his crowds, but he sure loves the color of their money. The more money he can fleece from his gullible followers, the better he likes it.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/49 "2021-01-04T00:40:16Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> Out of all the possibilities, I see this one as extremely unlikely, at least a 1 / 10^6 or lower. Trump is WAY too much of a narcissist to go that route. -

“I know more about killing myself than Dr. Kevorkian, believe me.”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/50 "2021-01-04T00:41:58Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> I see this one as extremely unlikely, at least a 1 / 10^6 or lower.

One-in-a-million chances turn out nine times out of ten.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/51 "2021-01-04T00:44:50Z")

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I don’t think Trump will kill himself because -

1. He cannot conceive of a world without him
2. He’s been bailed out of trouble his entire life… why would it stop now?
3. He can’t stand the idea of others laughing over his dead body
4. He’s too cowardly to risk whatever pain or discomfort might be involved.

He’ll get worse without ever getting better, I think that’s a given, but I don’t think he’ll kill himself. Someone will have him committed first.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/52 "2021-01-04T00:56:27Z")

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Re: This common assumption that a narcicicicicst (sp?) would never kill himself: I think that’s not necessarily intuitive.

A nar… thinks he’s God’s gift to the world. He does not imagine others laughing over his dead body. No, he imagines the whole world wracked and distraught over his absence, rending their sackcloth garments with much wailing, and pouring ashes over their heads. Yes, he imagines this with much glee.

The narcissist commits suicide to punish the world.

Now, Trump in particular may be much too cowardly to do this, as many above suggest. But a bolder, braver narcissist might well do it.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/53 "2021-01-04T01:25:37Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> > [@Riemann](#):
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> > There’s certainly a psychological path for a narcissist to fall into depression and to suicide.
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> Yeah, but that doesn’t address his cowardice. He likes to play a tough guy, but he’s a weenie. Put another way, he doesn’t have the huevos to kill himself.
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> I guess he could just order Stephen Miller to do it for him.

Or John Barron…

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/54 "2021-01-04T01:25:44Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> “I know more about killing myself than Dr. Kevorkian, believe me.”

“They tell me, everybody tells me, they say, ‘Donald, nobody is better at suicide than you, nobody.’ I don’t know, I think I am just kind of special that way.”

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/55 "2021-01-04T01:28:58Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> > [@Aspenglow](#):
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> > In all seriousness, I think he’ll bounce before the walls close in completely. Neither Saudi Arabia or Russia have extradition treaties with the US. They do deal rather harshly with people who fall out of favor, though. There’s always UAE or Brunei. Oh, I know. The Maldives.
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> Nobody wants him and he’s too far in debt to buy citizenship in a country that won’t extradite him back to the US. Trump is probably going to self-pardon and then hide himself away in his penthouse like a cut-rate Bond villain, insisting that any investigation is just a “witch hunt” and trying to get a call though to _Fox & Friends_, who will collectively pretend that they have a bad connection.
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> Stranger

He shoulda bought that volcano back when he really _was_ rich.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/56 "2021-01-04T01:41:19Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> Other than that, he’s very popular. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads, they all adore him.

I take it the bushwhackers, hornswogglers, shitkickers and Methodists are on the fence?

> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> > [@Mahaloth](#):
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> > I think he’ll do rallies, call himself the “real president”, get away with everything, and die with zero personal consequences for his actions.
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> …and in great wealth and luxury. Evil pays.

That’s where my safe money would be on.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/57 "2021-01-04T01:51:44Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> He shoulda bought that volcano back when he really _was_ rich.

It wouldn’t have been [his worst investment](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trumps-13-biggest-business-failures-59556/). At least he could take a legitimate tax write-off when it melts down, unlike Trump Airlines, Trump Mortgage, and the Trump Taj Mahal.

Stranger

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**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/58 "2021-01-04T02:23:37Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> No, I don’t think Trump would commit suicide. I also don’t think he’ll go to prison or be arrested.
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> I think he’ll do rallies, call himself the “real president”, get away with everything, and die with zero personal consequences for his actions.

This. Those who helped him will get off scot-free, too. And the next time we elect a wannabe dictator, he’ll actually know what he’s doing.

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**Author:** ![MrKnowItAll](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrknowitall/32/87_2.png) [@MrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrKnowItAll)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/59 "2021-01-04T05:36:37Z")

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This is a question I’ve thought about a few times. I feel that Trump is scared. I mean _really_ scared. My guess is that the legal issues in the US is the least of his worries. I suspect he owes an unGodly amount to Deutsch Bank, and more than that I think he’s worried about what Putin is going to do when Trump is no longer useful to him.

I’d give it about a 10% chance that Trump will be dead within a month of leaving office, and that it will look like it’s by his own hand, probably accidentally. A drug overdose seems likely. However, there will probably be at least rumors that someone did him in, possibly a foreign power. (There will, of course, be those that will say the Democrats did it, but of course with no explanation of why they would.)

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2021, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-kill-himself-on-january-20/929593/60 "2021-01-04T06:51:13Z")

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I have been saying for a while that they should put him on suicide watch.

As far as I can see, his alternatives are:

1. Accept defeat, and face a bunch of criminal and civil actions.
2. Suicide.
3. Go postal, and be taken down by his own bodyguards.
4. Attempt a coup, order the military to protect his presidency. It would not go well for him.
5. Try to flee from justice to another country. Maybe Russia will grant him sanctuary.

He has basically ruled out #1, suicide is a fairly likely alternative.

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