# Will Trump self destruct before November, 2020?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 13, 2020, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889 "2020-02-13T18:43:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/61 "2020-02-15T17:43:31Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Other than his size if I had to pick who looks healthier between Trump, Bernie and Biden I would have to go with Trump. Bernie is looking pretty good for someone who recently had a heart attack. Biden… I don’t even want to write what I’m thinking.

Ah, go ahead. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/62 "2020-02-15T17:45:36Z")

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> [@MikeF](#):
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> Although it would entail stooping to Trump’s level, I wish Bloomberg would attack Trump on his alleged financial/business acumen. Point out the he (Bloomberg) could buy and sell the entire Trump organization without a thought. That he earned his money rather than having been given it through shady practices. That Trump was pretty much a joke in the NY real estate community. It wouldn’t do much for his chances in the election but it might make Trump become even more unhinged and reveal his true self to a greater extent.

Trump isn’t some Star Trek computer thats going to explode like that dude in Big Trouble in Little China.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/63 "2020-02-15T17:50:23Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Ah, go ahead. :dubious:

What’s with the dubious smilie? Did you only listen to the audio of the debates?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/64 "2020-02-15T18:06:32Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> What’s with the dubious smilie? Did you only listen to the audio of the debates?

You said:

> [@Loach](#):
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> … I don’t even want to write what I’m thinking.

Instead of asking two additional questions, just say what you’re thinking.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/65 "2020-02-15T18:15:22Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You said: Instead of asking two additional questions, just say what you’re thinking.

I think he’s starting to look like the preacher in Poltergeist 2. I think my 85 year old mother who is battling cancer looks healthier. I wish I was exaggerating. At this point I don’t know if he can handle the next few months of campaigning let alone 4 years as president. I don’t see how anyone can look at him and not think the same.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/66 "2020-02-15T19:47:11Z")

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I have to agree with Loach. Biden looks like he’s got a foot and a couple toes in the grave. If he looked healthy, he’d win the nomination easily. He should have ran in 2016 but I’m not sure he would have beaten Hillary.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/67 "2020-02-15T21:39:00Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I think he’s starting to look like the preacher in Poltergeist 2. I think my 85 year old mother who is battling cancer looks healthier. I wish I was exaggerating. At this point I don’t know if he can handle the next few months of campaigning let alone 4 years as president. I don’t see how anyone can look at him and not think the same.

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I have to agree with Loach. Biden looks like he’s got a foot and a couple toes in the grave. If he looked healthy, he’d win the nomination easily. He should have ran in 2016 but I’m not sure he would have beaten Hillary.

Okay. Thanks.

I’m no good at reading minds–I don’t try to.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/68 "2020-02-15T22:25:05Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> He already has self-destructed, years ago. The problem is that it doesn’t matter, and the debris still occupies the White House.

+1  
He has melted down. He’s made a fool out of himself on camera countless times, and despite trying to obstruct justice over and over, there’s still plenty of objectively incriminating evidence; much worse than Watergate.

But strangely a large part of the electorate don’t care.

So the questions instead become: _Is there_ a line that Trump can cross that would lose his base at this point, and will he cross it before/during the election?

There are multiple threads on these topics. But basically, I would say “yes” and “no”.  
He could always do something truly batshit like just start masturbating on live TV. But I don’t think he will, and anything less than that, his supporters will handwave. Erm, so to speak.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2020, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/69 "2020-02-15T23:32:56Z")

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The thread seems to have gone from “Will Tramp self-destruct?” to “How do I fantasize Tramp’s self-destruction?” aka looking for mechanisms. Heart failure seems the most likely. But then his clone will be wheeled out and events will proceed. We’re doomed, DOOMED!

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/70 "2020-02-16T00:12:38Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> Trump isn’t some Star Trek computer thats going to explode like that dude in Big Trouble in Little China.

He’s also not indestructible like that dude in the Bible.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/71 "2020-02-16T00:14:12Z")

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Self destruct and melt down are not the same thing.

The former means he loses his effective pillars of support.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/72 "2020-02-16T00:26:55Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I think he’s starting to look like the preacher in Poltergeist 2. I think my 85 year old mother who is battling cancer looks healthier. I wish I was exaggerating. At this point I don’t know if he can handle the next few months of campaigning let alone 4 years as president. I don’t see how anyone can look at him and not think the same.

Agreed. Apart from being overweight, Trump looks great for a guy who is almost 74 years old. Bernie doesn’t look bad, but having a heart attack at his age is not good news. Biden looks like he’s damned near dead.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/73 "2020-02-16T03:59:30Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Agreed. Apart from being overweight, Trump looks great for a guy who is almost 74 years old. Bernie doesn’t look bad, but having a heart attack at his age is not good news. Biden looks like he’s damned near dead.

My theory is that since every policy decision Trump makes is a knee jerk reaction at the moment he has not suffered the stress and anxiety that every other president has. Every other president has probably worried about every decision they made. Trump is sure he’s always right and never mulls anything. If nothing else it’s probably healthier for him.

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**Author:** ![MulderMuffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldermuffin/32/2862_2.png) [@MulderMuffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MulderMuffin)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/74 "2020-02-16T05:17:49Z")

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Hanging in the US Holocaust Memorial Museum is a list of the 14 warning signs of fascism. I think Trump’s ticked every one.

Powerful and continuing nationalism  
Disdain for human rights  
Identification of enemies as a unifying cause  
Supremacy of the military  
Rampant sexism  
Controlled mass media  
Obsession with national security  
Religion and government intertwined  
Corporate power protected  
Labor power suppressed  
Disdain for intellectuals & the arts  
Obsession with crime & punishment  
Rampant cronyism & corruption  
Fraudulent elections  
Almost no one in power on the right has complained about any of these actions They’ve cheered many of them. I don’t see much that Trump could do to implode, or turn his base against him in any meaningful way. If anything begins to, he’ll just call it fake news and they’ll nod sagely, of course it is. Dear Leader would never do such a thing, obviously a fake hoax witchhunt.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/75 "2020-02-16T06:05:15Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> He’s also not indestructible like that dude in the Bible.

Elijah?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2020, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/76 "2020-02-16T08:12:58Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> He’s also not indestructible like that dude in the Bible.

Satan?

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**Author:** ![Mike\_Mabes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mike_mabes/32/1782_2.png) [@Mike\_Mabes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mike_Mabes)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/77 "2020-02-17T05:03:46Z")

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Mabes for the win - Samson.

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**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/78 "2020-02-17T05:46:31Z")

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No, the biblical X-man was Yeshua bir Miryam. It’s hard to break up a godling. Stronger than dirt, just like Mr Clean.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/79 "2020-02-17T18:05:50Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> If he believed that fucking Ivanka would help him get re-elected, it’s within his rights as President because it’s for the good of the country. Right, Mr. Dershowitz?

I suspect Ivanka deserves that and more. And Jared should have to watch.

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**Author:** ![Gullibility\_is\_Underated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecae2f/32.png) [@Gullibility\_is\_Underated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gullibility_is_Underated)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2020, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-self-destruct-before-november-2020/847889/80 "2020-02-18T05:36:17Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> I suspect Ivanka deserves that and more. And Jared should have to watch.

I would hazard a guess and say this kind of attitude is likely to result in a Trump victory

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