# Will Trump serve a full term?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 22, 2017, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801 "2017-01-22T02:51:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/61 "2017-01-23T07:25:30Z")

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Despite his many failings, I’m not aware of any serious allegations of W. Bush committing impeachable offenses. There is clear evidence that Trump is probably in violation of the Constitution and at a minimum I think the nation deserves an independent prosecutor looking into both his business dealings and whether he colluded with the Russian government to undermine our democracy. Given that the House is controlled by the GOP, I don’t think there is any chance of either of those things happening unless Trump becomes so unpopular that the GOP see it in their interests to go ahead with investigations to save their jobs.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/62 "2017-01-23T08:40:08Z")

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> [@ultimate11](#):
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> George W. Bush kept getting lower ratings after 9/11, but nobody in congress wanted to impeach him, so I doubt Trump will get impeached due to low popularity.
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> Judging from how much shit he’s taken since he said he’ll build a wall in 2015 up till now, I reckon he’ll be fine, especially with a new mansion and the best healthcare in America. As I mentioned about Bush Sr, there’s good healthcare to prevent him from losing it.

Trump’s lack of popularity won’t be the legal reason for impeachment talk. Business conflicts & the Russian connection lie dormant until the Republican Congress decides they’ve had enough with his foolishness.

The White House is not a “new mansion.” It’s a large, old, historically decorated house museum. Trump’s people can redecorate the family apartment to his taste but most of the White House will remain “unimproved.”

Bush Sr is currently intubated in a Houston hospital. For some years now he’s been in fragile condition–physically & mentally–very far past any public role. I don’t know how much “good healthcare” can do for Trump–who appears to stuff himself with junk food & avoid exercise.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/63 "2017-01-23T08:51:55Z")

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> [@ultimate11](#):
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> George W. Bush kept getting lower ratings after 9/11, but nobody in congress wanted to impeach him, so I doubt Trump will get impeached due to low popularity.
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> Judging from how much shit he’s taken since he said he’ll build a wall in 2015 up till now, I reckon he’ll be fine, especially with a new mansion and the best healthcare in America. As I mentioned about Bush Sr, there’s good healthcare to prevent him from losing it.

As the President, he’ll be under a lot more stress and getting a lot less sleep than he was on the campaign trail.

> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Hell, given how much the U.S. loves political dynasties, I’m worried that this is only the beginning of a long Trump dynasty. We’ll see Donald Trump Jr. elected in '24, Eric Trump in '32, and Barron Trump in '40.

Ivanka seems to be the smart one, so I’d personally be interested in seeing her platform.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/64 "2017-01-23T09:35:53Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> Obviously nobody here is in a position to give a qualified clinical diagnosis. But he wears his mental instability on his sleeve. Tweeting angry rants at 3 am is not normal behaviour. Insisting on “alternative facts” that fly in the face of demonstrable reality is not normal behaviour. He’s fucking nuts.

3 AM tweets are now fairly normal behavior. Just not for the President of the United States.

Sad.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/65 "2017-01-23T15:40:34Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Also: it takes a 2/3 vote in the Senate to remove. No way in hell that will happen.

I think that the Republican Party would much prefer Pence in office, so Trump needs to treat the Republicans very carefully.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/66 "2017-01-23T15:53:32Z")

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> [@Lobot](#):
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> But he wears his mental instability on his sleeve.

It’s not mental instability; it’s his management style. I’ve spoken to people who’ve dealt with him. (Apparently his son behaves the same only when his father is present.) Trump is not well liked in the business community hereabouts, and respected even less.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/67 "2017-01-23T17:28:28Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> It’s not mental instability; it’s his management style. I’ve spoken to people who’ve dealt with him. (Apparently his son behaves the same only when his father is present.) Trump is not well liked in the business community hereabouts, and respected even less.

Can you watch the CIA address he gave and say that that is “management style”?

He was talking like a giant vacuous hole of self regard, whose grip was slipping. It’s not a good strategy for management. He is truly “in a bubble.”

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/68 "2017-01-23T17:30:28Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Can you watch the CIA address he gave and say that that is “management style”?

As I said, I have spoken to people who have dealt with him, who have been there and seen him speak and shout.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/69 "2017-01-23T17:45:14Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> As I said, I have spoken to people who have dealt with him, who have been there and seen him speak and shout.

OK. That’s one or two data points.

> **["He's never going to admit he's wrong in front of everyone": President...](https://www.salon.com/2017/01/23/hes-never-going-to-admit-hes-wrong-in-front-of-everyone-president-trumps-aides-are-worried-about-his-behavior/)**
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> There are increasing concerns that Trump's character flaws are making him unfit to be president

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/70 "2017-01-24T00:24:13Z")

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The Defense Dept tweeted about “social media and mental health” and donnie is upset!

Not fake news.

> **[Defense Department links social media use to mental health in official tweet](https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/315629-defense-department-links-social-media-use-to-mental-health-in/)**
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> A tweet posted Monday morning by the Department of Defense is raising eyebrows for linking social media use to mental health.”Social media postings sometimes provide an important window into …

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/71 "2017-01-24T00:35:18Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> That is not normal, there is something really wrong with him and he seems to be struggling to get through the weekend let alone four years.

His doctor tried to warn us.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/72 "2017-01-24T00:37:09Z")

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Sean Spicer said the Trump is demoralized by the press coverage over the weekend. If he can’t handle 3 days, He won’t make a month.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/73 "2017-01-24T00:40:04Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> He’ll serve two.

weeks? months? not years, not full terms.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/74 "2017-01-24T00:57:16Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Not normal behavior? Let me introduce you to a little something I like to call “The Internet.” It might not be presidential but as the years advance it’s looking more and more like normal.

Well, common, maybe. But let’s be honest, do you want\*\* 'luci \*\*as President? Or me?

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/75 "2017-01-24T01:58:16Z")

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25th amendment is a better option.

If Trump keeps going after the intelligence community and tries to slash their funding, how long before he suffers a debilitating (god forbid) or worse health crisis? He’s 70 and borderline obese (depending on the definition of obese and how tall he really is).

'nuff said.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/76 "2017-01-25T00:49:43Z")

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There is currently legislation being considered that would require current and future presidents to supply their tax returns. Donald Trump will resign before he releases those. If the GOP wants a way out of this nonsense, without having to impeach their own leader, they should simply take a principled stand and support this legislation.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/77 "2017-01-25T14:50:43Z")

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The Short-Fingered Vulgarian is 70 years old, obese, and prone to frequent temper tantrums. That suggests poor odds for surviving a normal Presidential term, never mind four years of the non-stop chain of fiascoes that’s in store for him.

> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> I think he’ll die in office. He’s old, fat, and exciteable.
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> Actually, let me modify that. He might be pushed out, forced to resign, if he shows progressive dementia.

> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> I really doubt that. And wouldn’t hope for it either, because then we’d have President Pence, which would be even worse.

I presume that it’s the “progressive dementia” part you doubt – the “old, fat, and excitable” part is readily observable, whether one “hopes” for the obvious likely consequences of such a person in the White House or not.

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-serve-a-full-term/777801/78 "2017-01-25T14:58:36Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Also: it takes a 2/3 vote in the Senate to remove. No way in hell that will happen.

> [@GreenWyvern](#):
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> A lot of Republicans might prefer Pence to Trump.

If the Republicans decide that he needs to be cut loose before he drags them down with him, it might come down to negotiating which of the many possible charges to use. IMO, the Dems ought to hold firm on requiring “collusion with a hostile foreign power to sway the election” as the main, if not the only, charge brought.

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