# Will Trump survive his treatment of Khizr and Ghazala Khan? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 1, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463 "2016-08-01T13:37:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/121 "2016-08-02T01:59:43Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > The problem is, if Khan speaks out, he will be fair game for Trump’s opposition research team. They will find the dirt, dig it up, and try to bury him with it. Yes probably but if they do that, attempt to smear a gold star family, more Republicans will move away from Trump or disown him. Like I said upthread, Khan has said his goal is to get Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell to disown Trump. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/122 "2016-08-02T02:08:31Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Assange is getting his Wikileaks ready. Trump’s counter-punch is coming. One wonders how far the Russians will go in trying to fix this election. They can’t poke the other bear THAT hard. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/123 "2016-08-02T02:10:47Z")
Yogi? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/124 "2016-08-02T02:19:20Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > assuming the mantle as the great savior of ailing white christian nationalist America. Are you confusing White Christian America with testosterone poisoned rednecks? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/125 "2016-08-02T02:20:02Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > One wonders how far the Russians will go in trying to fix this election. They can’t poke the other bear THAT hard. My fear (one of them at least), is that Russia will fund and provide weapons through deniable proxy organisations to lone wolf radicalised refugees in Europe. If we get a constant stream of attacks similar to the Nice truck attack and the Ansbach bombing from now to November it will play into Trump’s hands. ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/126 "2016-08-02T02:23:50Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > The problem is, if Khan speaks out, he will be fair game for Trump’s opposition research team. They will find the dirt, dig it up, and try to bury him with it. And even if there is no dirt to find, they’ll make something up and spread it, knowing that to the average Trump supporter, there is no difference between Middle Eastern/Muslim/Muslim Brotherhood supporter/Radical Islamist/ISIS Member. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/127 "2016-08-02T03:49:43Z")
Haven’t read the whole thread, but someone on another board said she believes this is a big distraction from the Seth Rich/Wikileaks thing. Maybe it is, and maybe it isn’t. It’s still important. Just heard on MSNBC that Trump was one of about 10 people trapped in an elevator before a rally in Denver yesterday, and this is why it started late. He found a way to insult the fire chief, specifically because they were turning people away from the venue. Yes they were, because then the building would have been over capacity. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/128 "2016-08-02T04:02:38Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Haven’t read the whole thread, but someone on another board said she believes this is a big distraction from the Seth Rich/Wikileaks thing. > > Maybe it is, and maybe it isn’t. It’s still important. > > Just heard on MSNBC that Trump was one of about 10 people trapped in an elevator before a rally in Denver yesterday, and this is why it started late. He found a way to insult the fire chief, specifically because they were turning people away from the venue. Yes they were, because then the building would have been over capacity. > > :smack: Fire Marshall. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/129 "2016-08-02T06:02:56Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > This is just one in a series of bizarre feuds for Trump. I think that as the election proceeds, he will continue to crack and suffer a public breakdown. His supporters will blame it on the mainstream media’s slanted reporting. Funny you should say that; just a day or two ago I came across this blog posting: > **[Watch Donald Crack | dagblog](https://dagblog.com/watch-donald-crack-20943/)** > > I enjoyed that Democratic Convention a lot, and mostly for the right reasons. In fact, I'm still enjoying it, because I'm currently five time zones ahead of Philly time and so watch the major speeches the next day. \[SPOILER ALERT: Don't tell me who... > [@](#): > > It’s been no secret on this blog that I consider Donald Trump to have at least one fairly serious psychiatric condition. He is, to put it politely, a profoundly disordered personality. And under the stress of the campaign, he is going to decompensate badly. Running for President of the United States is incredibly challenging and stressful, even for strong, sane people who have already run many successful campaigns. Donald Trump is neither strong nor sane, and he has never been elected to any public office in his life. Not dog-catcher, not zoning board, not public water commission. He is not going to be able to take this. He is going to crack. > > In fact, he has already started. > > Over the last few days, as the general election gets underway, he has done a huge number of maladaptive things: expressed his desire to punch various speakers from the Democratic convention, decided to rant on Twitter about how Mike Bloomberg was mean to him, and mostly damningly urged the Russian government to spy on his election opponent. None of that is rationally calculated to help him. None if it is something you would do to help yourself. And I don’t think he planned to plea to Putin at all; it was just another troubled impulse he could not control. Lack of impulse control is one of his symptoms. > > ```auto > > Those symptoms are only going to get worse, because the pressure of the campaign is only going to get worse. I mean, the general election hasn't even really gotten started yet. Donald Trump is going to crack under that pressure, and he is going to do it in front of the entire world. I am not looking forward to watching that. But anything is better than watching him crack in the Oval Office. > > ``` My money’s on a flameout during a debate with Clinton, live on TV, when she slips a particularly pointed barb in under that thin skin. I don’t suppose he’d go so far as to actually try to go after her physically, be taken down by the Secret Service, and be dragged offstage ranting incoherently; but a girl can dream, can’t she? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/130 "2016-08-02T06:25:59Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Haven’t read the whole thread, but someone on another board said she believes this is a big distraction from the Seth Rich/Wikileaks thing. > > Maybe it is, and maybe it isn’t. It’s still important. > > Just heard on MSNBC that Trump was one of about 10 people trapped in an elevator before a rally in Denver yesterday, and this is why it started late. He found a way to insult the fire chief, specifically because they were turning people away from the venue. Yes they were, because then the building would have been over capacity. > > :smack: As running coach said, it was the fire marshal of Colorado Springs – who happens to be a local hero: > [@](#): > > (Marshal) Lacey was recently honored by the city as “Civilian of the Year” for his role in helping the wounded at a 2015 mass shooting at a local Planned Parenthood. > **[Donald Trump was rescued from a stuck elevator by Colorado Springs...](https://www.denverpost.com/2016/07/30/donald-trump-criticism-fire-marshal/)** > > The Fire Marshall that Donald Trump criticized while in Colorado Springs for capping attendance at his event on Friday responded Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/131 "2016-08-02T07:31:59Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > As running coach said, it was the fire marshal of Colorado Springs – who happens to be a local hero: Ok so Trump has insulted and attacked a local hero “civilian of the year” and a gold star family. We just need some Nobel prize winners to attack Trump so he can get a trifecta! Sorry I forgot he’s already called the Pope disgraceful: > **[Donald Trump calls Pope Francis 'disgraceful' for questioning his faith](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/18/donald-trump-pope-francis-christian-wall-mexico-border)** > > Trump responds after the pope suggests presidential candidate is ‘not a Christian’ because of his plan to build a border wall between the US and Mexico ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/132 "2016-08-02T07:56:54Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Fire Marshall. [Fire Marshal.](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fire-marshal?s=t) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/133 "2016-08-02T09:15:59Z")
> [@coremelt](#): > > Ok so Trump has insulted and attacked a local hero “civilian of the year” and a gold star family. We just need some Nobel prize winners to attack Trump so he can get a trifecta! “Little James Watson, who has never played golf with me, says I have same DNA as Muslim losers. Sad!” ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/134 "2016-08-02T11:04:53Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s been no secret on this blog that I consider Donald Trump to have at least one fairly serious psychiatric condition. He is, to put it politely, a profoundly disordered personality. Putting the phrase ‘Donald Trump’s mother’ into Google images scarred the absolute bejesus out of me. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/135 "2016-08-02T11:11:46Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Putting the phrase ‘Donald Trump’s mother’ into Google images scarred the absolute bejesus out of me. Ye gods. Was his father the Cryptkeeper? ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/136 "2016-08-02T12:08:32Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > [Fire Marshal.](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fire-marshal?s=t) or…“Marshal, you’re FIRED!” Trump doesn’t want the job, has never wanted it. He only started it for the publicity and when it began to snowball, loved it for the ego-boost, but every time his poll numbers show any signs of climbing, he does his best to sabotage himself. Hilary has been the target of unjustified slime for 30 years. Trump, demonstrating how a scandal-monger can benefit from being a complete asshole for 30 years, makes Hilary look like a sainte. Really. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/137 "2016-08-02T13:25:13Z")
_Eric Trump says father apologized to Khans_ It seems there’s only one thing wrong with that statement. He hasn’t. Eric thinks calling Capt. Khan a hero is an apology. Typical of how the Republicans redefine words to fit their agenda. Good summary on CNN about the interview with Eric. Watch Eric side step and avoid the hard questions. Also it points out that Trump will never apologize for anything, it’s in his DNA not to apparently. [http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/02/politics/eric-trump-khan-dispute-apology/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/02/politics/eric-trump-khan-dispute-apology/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/138 "2016-08-02T13:48:26Z")
[Veterans of Foreign Wars has a few choice words:](http://www.vfw.org/News-and-Events/Articles/2016-Articles/VFW-Supports-Gold-Star-Families/) > [@VFW](#): > > Presidential candidate Donald J. Trump has a history of lashing out after being attacked, but to ridicule a Gold Star Mother is out-of-bounds, said the new national commander of the near 1.7 million-member Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States and its Auxiliary. > > “Election year or not, the VFW will not tolerate anyone berating a Gold Star family member for exercising his or her right of speech or expression,” said Brian Duffy, of Louisville, Ky., who was elected July 27 to lead the nation’s oldest and largest major war veterans organization. > > “There are certain sacrosanct subjects that no amount of wordsmithing can repair once crossed,” he said. “Giving one’s life to nation is the greatest sacrifice, followed closely by all Gold Star families, who have a right to make their voices heard.” ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/139 "2016-08-02T13:51:41Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > My money’s on a flameout during a debate with Clinton, live on TV, when she slips a particularly pointed barb in under that thin skin. I only started thinking about it recently, but it’s worth noting that Trump has never faced a room that’s bipartisan, and won’t until the first general election debate. The guy has never run a campaign before, and the only places he’s spoken are the Republican primary debates and his own rallies. What the hell is he going to do in a room where half the people hate him and another 35% are squirming in their seats? He hasn’t the slightest clue about how to handle that. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463/140 "2016-08-02T13:54:52Z")
Oh, yes, he does. He’s not going to do it. Problem solved. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trump-survive-his-treatment-of-khizr-and-ghazala-khan/761463.md?page=8)