# Will Trump's conviction affect the election

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [May 30, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304 "2024-05-30T23:51:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/161 "2024-06-07T21:15:16Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> some juror posted about how they were planning on taking trump down;

More details here. It was someone who claimed to be cousin of a juror

> <https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1799174678696657091?t=_raT-VSRm6xRA5wrF0xoLw&s=19>

But in actuality sounds like a troll who is unrelated to any jurors, and he posted the same thing a few times on different days:

> <https://x.com/KatiePhang/status/1799181487951995060?t=fJAhrFfKEE9avntA8zOCOw&s=19>

I am sure it will be an established fact in MAGAland that this was an actual juror and the whole thing was a fix. But screw those guys and what they think

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/162 "2024-06-07T21:21:08Z")

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I figured that. X is biased.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/163 "2024-06-07T21:49:24Z")

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I was reading a story yesterday (sorry don’t remember the details) about an Xer who posted a vid of [Elon getting boo’d](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpfKJo8aYd8). He got his account deleted.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/164 "2024-06-14T15:33:05Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I figured that. X is biased…

Worse than biased. It actively promotes and spreads complete bullshit. That’s beyone mere “bias”

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/165 "2024-06-14T16:42:09Z")

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Isn’t that free speech though? The right to post absolute bullshit?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/166 "2024-06-14T17:45:37Z")

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There is no right to post bullshit wherever you want.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/167 "2024-06-14T18:07:37Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Isn’t that free speech though? The right to post absolute bullshit?

As noted from one of the Sandy Hook families lawyers: “Speech is free. But lying has a price.” Lie enough and it could be costly.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/168 "2024-06-14T18:11:27Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Isn’t that free speech though? The right to post absolute bullshit?

No. Free speech has limits. Unfortunately, posting absolute bullshit on X is not one of those limits (well, unless it pisses off Elon).

In certain instances, [it is illegal to yell fire in a crowded theater](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater#:~:text=Background%5Bedit,7%5D%5B8%5D) but whipping idiots who are to stupid to think for themselves up into a big enough frenzy to march on the capitol that results in deaths, isn’t. Go figure.

In my opinion, part of the problem with free speech is that it allows (almost) unregulated lying in public forums. It should be fine to say, “Democracy is bad, vote for me and I’ll institute Socialism”. It should not be OK to say, “Don’t vote for Biden - he’s a Socialist”.

Nija’d: re the lying…

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/169 "2024-06-16T20:12:02Z")

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> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#):
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> In certain instances, [it is illegal to yell fire in a crowded theater](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater#:~:text=Background%5Bedit,7%5D%5B8%5D) but whipping idiots who are to stupid to think for themselves up into a big enough frenzy to march on the capitol that results in deaths, isn’t. Go figure.

However, shouting “theater” in a crowded firehouse is perfectly legal.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2024, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-trumps-conviction-affect-the-election/1002304/170 "2024-06-18T15:44:43Z")

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There should be a way to stop people like Steve Bannon and Mike Flynn from recruiting people into their awful cult like groups. Mike Flynn is planning dangerous things and I’m worried about it. It really irritates me that he’s being paid $200K a year from this country and then feels free to go out and talk about this country in the way that he does.

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