# Will Wisconsin explode on Thursday? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 16, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640 "2011-02-16T22:58:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/41 "2011-02-18T19:42:07Z")
Apparently the Winter Festival was this weekend on the Capital Square. It’s now at the Memorial Union so you won’t be trying to ski through protesters. At least the Governor isn’t insisting they haul in and dump snow on the square right now, which would be normal for the event. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/42 "2011-02-18T19:42:46Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Funny you titled the thread like that as my sister walked into the house and announced “ALL THE WISCONSIN BOARDERS ARE CLOSED!!!” Of course she meant the bookstores, but my other sister would have been halfway to a bombshelter had my dad been the bombshelter type of person. And all the nobles are taking shelter in barns? ---
**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/43 "2011-02-18T22:19:57Z")
> [@Heyoka13](#): > > This shows my naivete, but having the unions opt out of Obama care and now the Wisconsin unions objecting to necessary budget constraints is surprising to me. > > Seems having the unions being willing to take one ‘for the team’ might pay off in a second term for Obama, and whatever Supreme court nominees to be made 2013 to 2017. > > Seems like that might be worth a lot of scratch . . . . I’ve got several friends that are teachers and social workers, a few of them in Wisconsin. They have been taking one for the team, for years. As **Drain Bead** mentioned, these people are often making ludicrously low wages, considering what that do, the amount of education they have to have and the hours they have to put in. The benefits are what make it possible for them to consider taking these jobs. One or two percent pay increases a year, if you are lucky. And now the states want 1) make the employees pay more for those benefits and 2) take away the unions ability to engage in collective bargaining? If this passes, I foresee a large shortage of teachers in Wisconsin next year, at current teachers say “Fuck it” and go get jobs in the private sector. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/44 "2011-02-18T22:33:18Z")
> [@Zjestika](#): > > [Rockford Chamber of Commerce]The Clock Tower has such great amenities, too, and an indoor water park! And it’s really close to a huge movie theater and a Cracker Barrel, and a short drive to Cherryvale Mall. I’m sure they’re having a lovely time.[/Chamber of Commerce] The Cracker Barrel is crappy. But there’s a Heavenly Ham down the street. . . I should totally bring them sandwiches. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/45 "2011-02-18T23:52:12Z")
[Assembly takes key vote on budget-repair bill with no Democrats present](http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/116470423.html) All this does is lock the bill so it now can’t be changed. In the meantime on Saturday the teabaggers will be at the Capital 12:00-15:00. Is Saturday the first violence day? ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/46 "2011-02-18T23:57:55Z")
[Now the vote is rescinded.](http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/116505743.html) ---
**Author:** ![GameHat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@GameHat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GameHat)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/47 "2011-02-20T07:38:43Z")
> [@SanibelMan](#): > > My wife and I tried to get lunch at the Old Fashioned on the square on Tuesday. That place is so good. I had breakfast there about a year ago and it brought a tear to my eye. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/48 "2011-02-20T07:52:31Z")
Can someone please explain to me the significance of the legislators, er, running away? ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/49 "2011-02-20T09:34:43Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > That was completely unnecessary. [And untrue, for that matter.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Schell) As far as I can tell from looking at Wikipedia, the National Guard wasn’t called in. Only the Seattle Police Department and the King County Sheriff’s Office. And I’m pretty sure the mayor can’t call in the National Guard on his own anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/50 "2011-02-20T10:20:18Z")
> [@Gukumatz](#): > > Can someone please explain to me the significance of the legislators, er, running away? It’s a quorum rule. The Wisconsin State Senate has 33 members (19 Republicans and 14 Democrats) and legislative rules say there has to be at least twenty members present for any business to be conducted. ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/51 "2011-02-20T12:13:40Z")
> [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#): > > I’ve got several friends that are teachers and social workers, a few of them in Wisconsin. > > They have been taking one for the team, for years. As **Drain Bead** mentioned, these people are often making ludicrously low wages, considering what that do, the amount of education they have to have and the hours they have to put in. The benefits are what make it possible for them to consider taking these jobs. One or two percent pay increases a year, if you are lucky. And now the states want 1) make the employees pay more for those benefits and 2) take away the unions ability to engage in collective bargaining? > > If this passes, I foresee a large shortage of teachers in Wisconsin next year, at current teachers say “Fuck it” and go get jobs in the private sector. Respectfully, I don’t think you realize how few jobs are out there in the private sector, even for highly educated people, nor do you realize how many of us have taken pay cuts and more of a share of our benefits in order to keep our employment. ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/52 "2011-02-20T16:25:54Z")
> [@2gigch1](#): > > Respectfully, I don’t think you realize how few jobs are out there in the private sector, even for highly educated people, nor do you realize how many of us have taken pay cuts and more of a share of our benefits in order to keep our employment. And your plight is clearly the fault of public workers. They pushed for tax cuts, they raised salaries and bonuses of executives while cutting salaries of other workers, they increased health insurance rates, they are sitting on large amounts of cash but not creating jobs (except overseas). Yes, I can see why you have such animus to teachers and firefighters. There was a red Maserati parked outside my business yesterday and the first thought I had was there is another fucking teacher living the good life off my taxes. Sales of private jets are up again and I just know it is public sector workers creating the demand. I’m sick of it I tell you. ---
**Author:** ![medstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@medstar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medstar)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/53 "2011-02-21T00:07:29Z")
> [@waterj2](#): > > As far as I can tell from looking at Wikipedia, the National Guard wasn’t called in. Only the \*\*Seattle Police Department \*\*and the King County Sheriff’s Office. And I’m pretty sure the mayor can’t call in the National Guard on his own anyways. I’m curious, why would the Seattle Police Department be called in to Wisconsin?😕 ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@Miss\_Purl\_McKnittington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Purl_McKnittington)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/54 "2011-02-21T01:37:48Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > There must some camels in Wisconsin. Well, there’s a [camel breeder](http://www.miniatureequine.com/fancoral/index.html) in Woodville. Bit far from the capital, if I’m remembering my state geography correctly, though. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640/55 "2011-02-21T21:39:05Z")
I read earlier today, that two pilots from the Wisconsin Air National Guard, flew to Chicago and landed at O’Hare and requested political assylum, claiming they were ordered to bomb the protesters in Madison. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-wisconsin-explode-on-thursday/571640.md?page=2)