# Will you pay for iPod Touch software update? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 16, 2008, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683 "2008-01-16T00:56:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Juggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/juggler/32/3194_2.png) [@Juggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juggler)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/1 "2008-01-16T00:56:24Z")
Apple updated their firmware for the iPhone and iPod Touch to version 1.1.3 today. Some bugfixes and features are free for both gadgets but if you want the applications Mail, Weather, Stocks, Notes, and Maps for the Touch you have to pay $20. If you buy a new Touch everything is included. Will you pay for the software update/applications? Any problems with it being free of charge for new users or iPhone owners but not existing owners of the Touch? I don’t think I will buy it. The applications are not that interesting to me and I’m not sure everything will work in Sweden. I can use webpages for the same info and it is just a little bit more cumbersome. For me Apple loses points for not treating customers the same regarding software. If it was a hardware update I would have no objections since that is what you risk with being an early adopter but I don’t think that should be the case with software. Maybe it is a test to see what the buyers will accept? It is a substantial update though so I’m not that upset. ---
**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/2 "2008-01-16T01:03:10Z")
[QUOTE=Juggler] Apple updated their firmware for the iPhone and iPod Touch to version 1.1.3 today. Some bugfixes and features are free for both gadgets but if you want the applications Mail, Weather, Stocks, Notes, and Maps for the Touch you have to pay $20. If you buy a new Touch everything is included. Will you pay for the software update/applications? [/QUOTE] No way/ > [@](#): > > Any problems with it being free of charge for new users or iPhone owners but not existing owners of the Touch? I have huge issues with this. > [@](#): > > The applications are not that interesting to me … I can use webpages for the same info and it is just a little bit more cumbersome. Ditto. > [@](#): > > For me Apple loses points for not treating customers the same regarding software. If it was a hardware update I would have no objections since that is what you risk with being an early adopter but I don’t think that should be the case with software. Maybe it is a test to see what the buyers will accept? It is a substantial update though so I’m not that upset. I think this whole idea of charging for updating your SW is bullshit. Sony updates PSP SW all the time and adds new apps to it, but never charges for it. It doesn’t make any sense. (It makes even less sense given that the apps are not that compelling, since you can access your email and google maps via safari) ---
**Author:** ![MrFantsyPants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@MrFantsyPants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrFantsyPants)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/3 "2008-01-16T03:36:46Z")
Yeah, I think it sucks. Apple really surprised me with this announcement. It’s like a big ‘fuck you’ to early adopters. (I don’t have a touch, but if I did, I’d be pissed) ---
**Author:** ![Hanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b3f665/32.png) [@Hanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hanna)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/4 "2008-01-16T18:40:08Z")
I have an iPod Touch that I bought Dec. 26th - no, I won’t pay. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/5 "2008-01-16T18:56:18Z")
They’ll probably give you store credit like they did with the iPhone price drop. That was unnecessary IMO. ---
**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/6 "2008-01-16T19:53:51Z")
I did this morning. Not having access to an iPhone, I was impressed. The Mail client is the best mobile mail client I’ve used. I just thought of it as paying $20 for a really nice mail program, rather than a paid OS update. ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/7 "2008-01-16T20:03:44Z")
I just bought my iPod Touch 6 days ago. So yeah, this kind of irks me. ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/8 "2008-01-16T21:08:03Z")
[QUOTE=Airblairxxx] I just bought my iPod Touch 6 days ago. So yeah, this kind of irks me. [/QUOTE] Take it back, and get a new one. Apple gives you 14 days. ---
**Author:** ![Hanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b3f665/32.png) [@Hanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hanna)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/9 "2008-01-16T21:44:51Z")
Returning it- I’ve heard Apple will charge a 10% restock fee ($29-$39, depending which model you have) so it would be cheaper to just buy the apps. Or jailbreak and get them free - iPhone apps have been our for months on jailbroken Touches. ---
**Author:** ![Airblairxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Airblairxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airblairxxx)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/10 "2008-01-16T23:57:59Z")
[QUOTE=TimeWinder] Take it back, and get a new one. Apple gives you 14 days. [/QUOTE] Hmm . . . I got it from Costco. How does Apple know it’s a new one? They can’t have already preloaded the new stuff onto everything in inventory, can they? ---
**Author:** ![Yag\_Rannavach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/858c86/32.png) [@Yag\_Rannavach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yag_Rannavach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/11 "2008-01-17T00:31:46Z")
With this and the iphone price drop, I wouldn’t be surprised if the next time apple releases something new(cough…macbookair…cough) the otherwise early adopters will wait for 2-3 months before buying. ---
**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-you-pay-for-ipod-touch-software-update/433683/12 "2008-01-17T19:24:17Z")
Isn’t this fairly normal practice for Apple? In the same way, say, as corporate Microsoft users tend to wait for at least one Service Pack before an OS upgrade, Apple customers wait a few months for the inevitable extras and price-drop? Or am I just being cynical?