# William Barr has resigned

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [December 14, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057 "2020-12-14T22:45:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/21 "2020-12-15T00:15:30Z")

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I think you all are giving him too much credit. Biden was confirmed, Barr knows he’s getting fired and instead of giving Biden the pleasure he’s just quitting. Trump is no longer of any value to him so he’s out.

If there was any plausible way for Barr to fraudulently contravene the will of the people, he wouldn’t hesitate. He’d have no problem being Dictator Trump’s personal Goebbels, he did not leave on some principled stand. Gimme a break, have you been paying any attention to him?

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/22 "2020-12-15T00:17:24Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> I think you all are giving him too much credit. Biden was confirmed, Barr knows he’s getting fired and instead of giving Biden the pleasure he’s just quitting. Trump is no longer of any value to him so he’s out.
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> If there was any plausible way for Barr to fraudulently contravene the will of the people, he wouldn’t hesitate. He’d have no problem being Dictator Trump’s personal Goebbels, he did not leave on some principled stand. \

^ This.

William Barr hasn’t a single principle, other than staying in power. This way, he can hope to live and subvert the US justice system another day.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/23 "2020-12-15T00:18:25Z")

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I suspect the following days will see a lot of departures. Today’s EC vote marks the point where the number of people in power that think Trump has any chance whatsoever of holding on to the White House is pretty much 1.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/24 "2020-12-15T00:19:34Z")

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I can’t stand the prick but I have to appreciate that he did not announce the investigation into Hunter Biden. I can’t blame him for leaving but why bother quitting a month before the inauguration.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/25 "2020-12-15T00:20:04Z")

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It’s not a coincidence that it happened the same day Biden was nominated. In Barr’s view, this is the official end of the road for all the legal shenanigans. He was waiting for it to become official before he walked.

Trump’s on the golf course anyways, it’s not like he’s in Barr’s ear about anything.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/26 "2020-12-15T00:20:43Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Bill will be leaving just before Christmas to spend the holidays with his family…
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> …and will never be seen again.

10 quatloos says by June, Barr will be in front of Congress explaining how he was secretly holding back Trump, and that really, he should be thanked for helping demonstrate the danger inherent to a powerful centralized government and unchecked executive authority.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/27 "2020-12-15T00:21:59Z")

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Yes, that’s the post I was thinking of. I thought it was a pretty bold prediction at the time, but well done @ann_hedonia

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**Author:** ![Mdm.President](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@Mdm.President](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mdm.President)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/28 "2020-12-15T00:31:00Z")

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Wouldn’t it be nice if that were true?

"MUST READ! morning good news! Shared.  
~~Removed copied and pasted post from Facebook until clarified~~

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/29 "2020-12-15T00:38:51Z")

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Um, the time for the state legislatures to be heard was when they chose their electors. You know the ones that just voted today? The ones whose votes exactly matched the will of the voters of their respective states? The electors who just gave Joe Biden a 306 to 232 victory? those electors?

Got anything else?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/30 "2020-12-15T00:42:45Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> I’ve moved from “Barr is a despicable toady” to grudging recognition of his having processed an investigation of Hunter Biden without making that fact public during the election season. Let’s see… Barr is a semi-despicable mostly-toady? Hmm, needs work…

> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I can’t stand the prick but I have to appreciate that he did not announce the investigation into Hunter Biden. I can’t blame him for leaving but why bother quitting a month before the inauguration.

Don’t give credit to Barr for doing this. He was pushing John Durham hard in early to mid-September to release his report into all this garbage. It was Durham and his top aide, Nora Dannehy, who refused to go along with the scheme.

> **[Top Durham aide resigns amid investigation of Russia probe origins](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/top-durham-aide-resigns-amid-investigation-russia-probe-origins-n1239908)**
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> The resignation of Nora Dannehy may set off alarm bells about Attorney General William Barr's efforts to influence the investigation.

With Nora Dannehy having left the DOJ entirely, she effectively stopped Barr from moving forward with the investigation. By quitting, she put herself out of the reach of Barr’s influence and was (is!) free to testify to whomever may subpoena her about Barr’s pressure campaign to release this totted-up investigate-the-investigators/Hunter Biden nonsense.

I noticed Barr went quiet right after all this happened, and Trump started disparaging Barr. I felt he was going to leave since then to save his own skin best he can. No hero he.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/31 "2020-12-15T00:48:58Z")

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> [@Mdm.President](#):
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> Wouldn’t it be nice if that were true?

I am unclear if you are quoting something you found online or if this is what you believe or both?

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/32 "2020-12-15T00:49:11Z")

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Perhaps you have all become cynical. May I remind you that Trump called the new Attorney General an outstanding man?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/33 "2020-12-15T00:49:43Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> Yeah, and it’s also about stopping all the talk about getting Barr disbarred.

Good fucking luck with that! Calls for his head are starting already.

From (you guessed it) Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-NJ) calls for sanctions. [Image of Page 1 of his complaint](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpPFQDoW4AMT6aE?format=jpg&name=large).  
[Image of Page 2](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpPFQDpXEAICjzC?format=jpg&name=large).

From this tweet-storm by Pascrell itemizing a bunch of Barr’s crimes:

> <https://mobile.twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1338628999648595970>

> [@](#):
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> So while bill barr may be leaving as the nation’s top law enforcement official, his fanatical assaults on the rule of law are chilling.
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> Barr should be stripped of his law licenses for life so he can never practice law again.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/34 "2020-12-15T00:50:36Z")

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Check out how Newsmax is covering this - you can probably skip the trash article and go right to the comments - pure gold! 😂 🤣

> **[Trump: AG Barr Is Resigning](https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/barr/2020/12/14/id/1001507/)**
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> President Donald Trump is tweeting that Attorney General Bill Barr will be leaving his job just before Christmas. He will be succeeded on an interim basis by deputy Jeff Rosen.This is a developing story...

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**Author:** ![gnarator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gnarator/32/8266_2.png) [@gnarator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarator)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/35 "2020-12-15T00:56:04Z")

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That’s something you can find on Facebook from a variety of sources. Google “Ok, so many are upset, confused and giving up regarding SCOTUS today. My brilliant friend Stephon Rudd strikes again. Below he explains so eloquently” and all sorts of places pop up.

Not clear if Mdm.President believes it, or was responding to the statement that only one person thinks Trump can win.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/36 "2020-12-15T01:02:44Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> > [@Sherrerd](#):
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> > Yeah, and it’s also about stopping all the talk about getting Barr disbarred.
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> Good fucking luck with that! Calls for his head are starting already.
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> From (you guessed it) Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-NJ) calls for sanctions. [Image of Page 1 of his complaint](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpPFQDoW4AMT6aE?format=jpg&name=large).  
> [Image of Page 2](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpPFQDpXEAICjzC?format=jpg&name=large).
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> From this tweet-storm by Pascrell itemizing a bunch of Barr’s crimes:  
> [https://mobile.twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1338628999648595970](https://mobile.twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1338628999648595970)
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> > [@](#):
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> > So while bill barr may be leaving as the nation’s top law enforcement official, his fanatical assaults on the rule of law are chilling.
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> > Barr should be stripped of his law licenses for life so he can never practice law again.

Yes, he should.

Pascrell and others may well continue to call for Barr to be sanctioned. But this resignation has already changed public opinion in Barr’s favor.

See, for example, the posts expressing grudging admiration for Barr (for not having publicly announced a Hunter Biden investigation). See, too, Aspenglow’s superb counter. But the fact remains that many on the left are now saying ‘o_kay, Barr has repudiated Trump by resigning, and he didn’t go after Hunter Biden before the election, so I guess he’s not so bad…_’

Barr’s wholly cynical resignation will have the effect of defusing any efforts by Pascrell or others. They will now have trouble getting traction for their attempts to hold Barr to account.

Or, in other words: there ain’t no justice.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/37 "2020-12-15T01:07:05Z")

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WTF? Are you cereal?

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/38 "2020-12-15T01:07:31Z")

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> [@amarinth](#):
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> I am unclear if you are quoting something you found online or if this is what you believe or both?

Ditto. Without context I can’t process that post.

And who the hell is Stephon Rudd and why do we care? (According to LinkedIn there is a guy by that name who is simultaneously a copywriter and CEO and president of the resoundingly obscure “Cyphon Media.”)

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/39 "2020-12-15T01:20:48Z")

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I think he’s put his time in. Let him be and spend time with his family.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-barr-has-resigned/928057/40 "2020-12-15T01:22:49Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Ditto. Without context I can’t process that post.

Well, you see… Donald Trump is a “freeborn and sovereign” person and was therefore not subject to the so called “election laws”. Also, Trump did not enter into Joinder with the Supreme Court, so they have no jurisdiction over him. Not to mention, the Court is actually a Maritime Court, and any decisions they make are null and void unless they have a maritime flag (with gold fringe) in the courtroom.

Therefore, Trump is now, and will continue to be… President.

It’s all pretty plain and obvious once you know what to look for.

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