# William Shatner - "Common People"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-shatner-common-people/275983>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 21, 2004, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-shatner-common-people/275983 "2004-11-21T21:02:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-shatner-common-people/275983/21 "2004-11-22T00:31:51Z")

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> [@violacrane](#):
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> Cool, never been thrippled before. I’ll check 'em out.

Just so ya know, “Whatever and Ever Amen” is actually Ben Folds Five’s second album, not their first. Their first album is self-titled, and probably harder to find due to being on Caroline Records, an independent label. But they’re all terrific albums–Ben’s solo album (without the Five) “Rockin’ the Suburbs” and his recent live album are worthwhile purchases too. You can always listen to samples on [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com)!

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**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-shatner-common-people/275983/22 "2004-11-22T02:57:23Z")

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> [@DooWahDiddy](#):
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> You’re right about Ben Folds Five being superb, but _Whatever and Ever Amen_ was not their first album. They have an eponymous album that, in my opinion, is just as strong (if not stronger) than _Whatever…_ that came out first. There’s also a live album called _Ben Folds Live_ (go figure) that includes a track where he used the audience in the manner described by the OP (and indeed, did that when I saw him perform in Central Park as well).

Indeed. 😉

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-shatner-common-people/275983/23 "2004-11-22T03:07:48Z")

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I have fond memories of watching the Pulp video in a bar in the university district of Shinchon in Seoul; love this song. Shatner’s version is actually pretty cool.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-shatner-common-people/275983/24 "2004-11-22T04:52:10Z")

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> [@DooWahDiddy](#):
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> You’re right about Ben Folds Five being superb, but _Whatever and Ever Amen_ was not their first album. They have an eponymous album that, in my opinion, is just as strong (if not stronger) than _Whatever…_ that came out first. There’s also a live album called _Ben Folds Live_ (go figure) that includes a track where he used the audience in the manner described by the OP (and indeed, did that when I saw him perform in Central Park as well).

I saw him a few years ago, when _Rockin’ the Suburbs_ came out, and we got to sing the background vocals then, too.

Chronologically, though, was the self-titled released before _Naked Baby Photos_?

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-shatner-common-people/275983/25 "2004-11-22T16:22:38Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Chronologically, though, was the self-titled released before _Naked Baby Photos_?

Nope. _Naked Baby Pictures_ came out between _Whatever and Ever…_ and _The Unauthorized Biography of Reinhold Messner_. The latter is the one with “Army” on it.  
_NBP_ is a collection of live, B-sides, and other material that never made it to the first two releases. It was put out by Caroline when BFF switched labels (went to Sony), much in the same way IRS released _Eponymous_ when REM jumped to Warner.

And as I have said in other threads, I love _Has Been_.

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2004, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/william-shatner-common-people/275983/26 "2004-11-22T17:53:51Z")

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I mean, yes, _Ben Folds Five_ was released before _NBP_, but _NBP_ it does have some stuff on it that was recorded before the first was released (“Evaline” comes to mind.)  
Confusing enough for ya?

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