# Willing to GM a Diplomacy game-using the 1900 rules **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 11, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816 "2014-07-11T01:29:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/1 "2014-07-11T01:29:31Z")
I’m not interested in Vanilla-I’ve been itching to try this variant for awhile now, so decided to see if there’s any interest. The rules are the same as normal Diplomacy, with some special rules for using the Suez Canal and a few other odds and ends. [Rules](http://www.diplom.org/DipPouch/Online/variants/1900.html) [Gamer’s Guide](http://www.diplom.org/DipPouch/Online/variants/1900-061119.pdf) [Map](http://www.diplom.org/DipPouch/Online/maps/1900-large.gif) In short, I think this map is a lot more balanced than Vanilla’s, fairer, and more exciting. Drop a note here if interested. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/2 "2014-07-14T03:33:40Z")
I eagerly await pummeling from whichever heads of state also sign up. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/3 "2014-07-14T03:39:27Z")
Well, it seems it’s a reunion of **wevets** ’s game from a few years ago. I’m interested. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/4 "2014-07-14T16:11:44Z")
I’ll be spectating very enthusiastically! Unfortunately I’m juggling too much in real life to give a game like this the time it deserves. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/5 "2014-07-14T23:09:41Z")
OK-will keep bumping until we get seven. ---
**Author:** ![Vercingetorix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/848f3c/32.png) [@Vercingetorix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vercingetorix)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/6 "2014-07-15T07:43:43Z")
I’m interested! What kind of schedule is this going to be on? ---
**Author:** ![XanderCrews](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ee59a6/32.png) [@XanderCrews](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XanderCrews)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/7 "2014-07-15T09:07:22Z")
I’ll play. Are we playing on the board or using an alternate site? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/8 "2014-07-15T16:39:38Z")
Sounds like fun. I’ve got some spare time coming up, but if this thing’s likely to take more than four weeks, I need to factor in a two-week holiday the second half of August. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/9 "2014-07-15T17:00:51Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Sounds like fun. I’ve got some spare time coming up, but if this thing’s likely to take more than four weeks, I need to factor in a two-week holiday the second half of August. Well, the last one we were in took four months. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/10 "2014-07-15T18:55:08Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Sounds like fun. I’ve got some spare time coming up, but if this thing’s likely to take more than four weeks, I need to factor in a two-week holiday the second half of August. I’ll be leaving for mine soon after that. We can postpone the game until Sept., if everyone’s game (pardon the expression), tho I at least could probably GM it off of my smartphone and/or any computers I can access along the way… While I am perfectly fine doing this by hand, any recs for sites or software which can handle this mod would be appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/11 "2014-07-15T18:57:31Z")
Count 5 so far… Tentative schedule: Would one a weeks work, or be too slow? Or would 3-4 days to ponder, pontificate and parley work better? ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/12 "2014-07-15T20:54:13Z")
I’d say maybe a week for the first turn, because extra time might be needed for negotiation, then switch to a turn every 4 days. Take a break as needed for people who go on vacation. Any other ideas? ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/13 "2014-07-15T20:56:51Z")
@ **John** - jDip was very helpful software last time we did this. It comes in versions that work on PC, Mac, or Linux. I would strongly recommend it over just working out turns on paper. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/14 "2014-07-15T22:56:44Z")
I’m pretty sure jDip was what I used when we played last time. I used it to simulate turns during my planning - it’s a good program. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/15 "2014-07-16T01:32:16Z")
It might not work with the special rules of 1900 (esp. the around the horn travel rules). Like I said I can do it by hand, as I’ve done before. With the new expanded PM message allowance, we might be able to do all press here. So far we’ve got (confirm or deny as needed): **wevets AClockworkMelon Vercingetorix XanderCrews Malacandra** (?) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/16 "2014-07-16T06:53:28Z")
Looking forward to Peanut Gallerying this! ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/17 "2014-07-16T11:09:29Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > It might not work with the special rules of 1900 (esp. the around the horn travel rules). Like I said I can do it by hand, as I’ve done before. Our last game was also a variant, and it there were maps for it. I’m pretty sure the 1900 one is more popular than the one with Egypt. But hey, if you want to do it by hand, by all means. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/18 "2014-07-16T11:26:16Z")
A word of advice to players in this thread. If the game is anything like proper European power diplomacy then you have two main results. Either everyone gangs up on Germany, or, its German hegemony over the continent. Never underestimate the power of The Hun. Oh, and never completely trust the Irish. They will rise up at your greatest moment of weakness. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/19 "2014-07-17T03:22:50Z")
It also just occurred to me: [Playdiplomacy.com](http://www.playdiplomacy.com/games.php) supports the 1900 variant and is, I think, free to play. So if you don’t feel like doing it by hand, and/or want to join in, **John** , we could do it that way… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vercingetorix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/848f3c/32.png) [@Vercingetorix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vercingetorix)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2014, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816/20 "2014-07-17T06:16:57Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > It also just occurred to me: [Playdiplomacy.com](http://www.playdiplomacy.com/games.php) supports the 1900 variant and is, I think, free to play. > > So if you don’t feel like doing it by hand, and/or want to join in, **John** , we could do it that way… 🙂 I may not be reading this correctly, but it looks like the 1900 map is only available to premium members. > **[Play Diplomacy Online ::: web version of the classic Diplomacy board game](https://www.playdiplomacy.com/premium.php)** > > The biggest Diplomacy site on the web. Playing Diplomacy is free! Easy point-and-click interface. Play Diplomacy with friends or strangers. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willing-to-gm-a-diplomacy-game-using-the-1900-rules/692816.md?page=2)