# Willy Wonka's Appearance in the new Tim Burton Film **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 29, 2005, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777 "2005-03-29T15:48:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/41 "2005-03-31T07:13:29Z")
Good heavens. The sheer stupidity found in the comments at the bottom of **vivalostwages** link might have actualy caused me to lose a couple IQ points. Hmm. Can’t spell actualy anymore. Yep, those IQ ponts are gone. Damn. ---
**Author:** ![IGJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/igjoe/32/5420_2.png) [@IGJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IGJoe)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/42 "2005-03-31T07:19:41Z")
Hmm, well _that’s_ a letdown. Although I suppose this version really is more faithful to the book. ---
**Author:** ![BobNewby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@BobNewby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobNewby)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/43 "2005-03-31T08:48:30Z")
Gah, it looks like _Fear and Loathing in Wonkaland_. ---
**Author:** ![Weaver\_of\_Nightmares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/73ab20/32.png) [@Weaver\_of\_Nightmares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weaver_of_Nightmares)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/44 "2005-03-31T10:27:27Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > [http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=2811](http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=2811) Hmm, I don’t like Johnny here either. Too young, for starters. ::shrugs:: I’ll wait until the movie comes out, though I am curious to see what they’ll make of it. I loved Gene Wilder’s Wonka 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/45 "2005-03-31T10:36:09Z")
I’d just like to point out that the same kind of misgivings were uttered about Depp appearing in a movie based on a ride at Disneyland, and look what happened with that? Roald Dahl, folks. His entire schtick is all about dark weird creepy stuff happening in a surrealistic environment. If that doesn’t suit Tim Burton and Johnny Depp, then I don’t know of anyone better. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/46 "2005-03-31T13:41:44Z")
Somehow, the poster reminds me more of Tom Petty in the video for “Running down a dream”, or maybe “Don’t come arounfd here no more.” ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/47 "2005-03-31T13:53:26Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > Sorry, **Joe** , they’re not all that scary: > > [http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=2811](http://www.dtheatre.com/read.php?sid=2811) That looks like something out of Barbarella. ---
**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/48 "2005-03-31T14:37:05Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Pft. A Burton film without an Elfman score is like a Christmas without…well, without Jack Skellington! I tend to agree, except Howard Shore did the score for “Ed Wood” and it was fantastic. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/49 "2005-03-31T14:49:38Z")
I still say if we have to have a new Wonka movie, it should have been Tim Curry! ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/50 "2005-03-31T17:19:04Z")
I’m in the middle of a dilemma, here. I _hate_ Willy Wonka, and have since I was a child. I _love_ Johnny Depp, and have since _Nightmare on Elm Street_. I _hate_ remakes. I _love_ Tim Burton. I’ve decided that the only thing to do is go out and buy the book at lunchtime. Maybe if I can get Gene Wilder out of my head, I’ll be ready to enjoy the movie when it comes out. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/51 "2005-03-31T19:27:59Z")
This is odd: my SO is under the impression that this movie is not a remake, but a sequel to the first film. That would mean that Depp is playing a grown-up Charlie who now runs the chocolate factory. This makes little sense to me, looking at the trailer – it looks like it depicts the same events as the first film and the books. ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/52 "2005-03-31T19:34:52Z")
Tim Curry has grown way too round in his 50’s. He would be a good choice if we could have him in the same shape he was in when he played the good Doctor Furter. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/53 "2005-03-31T20:11:46Z")
**Dung Beetle** I love Tim! _That_ would have been interesting (or creepy…I’m invisioning a Rocky Horror Wonka 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/54 "2005-03-31T20:18:44Z")
Rocky Horror Wonka…mmmmmmm, yummy! ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/55 "2005-03-31T20:31:28Z")
> [@Dung Beetle](#): > > Rocky Horror Wonka…mmmmmmm, yummy! I can’t be the only one who’s going to spend the rest of the afternoon writing the songs for such a spectacular. ---
**Author:** ![Just1Lurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@Just1Lurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just1Lurk)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/56 "2005-03-31T20:43:29Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **Draelin** : > I can’t be the only one who’s going to spend the rest of the afternoon writing the songs for such a spectacular. \*It’s astounding… Time is…flowing… And it’s certainly not showing ANY SIGNS OF SLOWING Doompa-de-Doo!\* ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/57 "2005-03-31T20:47:19Z")
**Draelin** I already started. _Damnit, Charlie_ _Over at the Wonka Place_ _Shnoz Berry Warp_ _Sweet Oompa Loompa_ Lame…I know. :wally ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/58 "2005-03-31T20:51:40Z")
Separated at birth? [Johnny Depp](http://www.dtheatre.com/story_images/101104wwonka2.jpg) [Tara Fitzgerald](http://www.miranda-richardson.com/simplytara/tfgallery/gallery09.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Just1Lurk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@Just1Lurk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just1Lurk)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/59 "2005-03-31T21:00:07Z")
\*Who can look for Brad there? Join him there in bed? Make him think it’s Janet 'til the wig comes off his head? The Rocky man The Rocky man can\* ---
**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777/60 "2005-03-31T21:01:37Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > **Draelin** I already started. > > _Damnit, Charlie_ > _Over at the Wonka Place_ > _Shnoz Berry Warp_ > _Sweet Oompa Loompa_ See, I had “Over at the Chocolatier’s Place.” 🙂 And let’s not forget the show-stopping production number, “Cocoa Glaze My World.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/willy-wonkas-appearance-in-the-new-tim-burton-film/296777.md?page=4)