# Wimbledon '18 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 7, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484 "2018-07-07T19:10:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/1 "2018-07-07T19:10:16Z")
Only two of the top ten women’s seeds remaining. (Halep’s at 1-1 in sets as I type this - actually I have a lot of PVR viewing ahead of me, so I probably already have a lot of catching up to do). Wonder when Murray will ever get court-ready again. This Canuck glad to see Raonic cruise easily to the round of 16. He was actually showing something called court mobility! Shocking. Great to see - winning more net points now. Before Fed comes across Raffa, he’ll have to deal with Delpo. Can’t find anywhere their career won/loss against each other, but I’m pretty sure that in the last, say, five or six matches, that Delpo has won the majority of them. Nice in the first round when the bass lines are still green. mmmmm [Vitalia Diatchenko](https://www.google.com/search?q=diatchenko&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwis8o3g143cAhWEAnwKHRRyBGoQ_AUICigB&biw=893&bih=819) (ousted second round by the spunky little Ostapenko brat) ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/2 "2018-07-07T19:24:18Z")
Qualifier Ernests Gulbis defeats fourth seed Alexander Zverev in five sets - 6-0 in the final set. No one saw that coming. ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/3 "2018-07-07T21:31:46Z")
ESPN coverage has hit a new low. Case in point the match today of American Frances Tiafoe against Russian Karen Khachanov. Tiafoe was having a great tournament and was hopeful of playing the second week. He was one of handful of Americans (both men and women) left. Of course, ESPN was very one-sided in favour of the American - I understand and don’t mind that at all. Tiafoe won the first two sets, but lost in the 3rd set tie-breaker. The momentum had obviously switched and Tiafoe was broken early in the 4th. After this his body language showed some kind of distress and he basically conceded the set. A long break between sets and he came out and tried, but the Russian was playing very strong and Tiafoe had nothing left - he lost 6-1. It was the Russian hitting winners, and Tiafoe showing some kind of injury, sickness or heat malady. But ESPN wasn’t going to credit the Russian, or give Tiafoe any sympathy. They ripped into him relentlessly about his character and mental toughness. About 45 minutes of questioning his balls (not tennis), his training, his coaching. Just awful… when these guys get a bone they chew on it with relentless ignorance of anything else. After the match Tiafoe said that stomach problems developed late in the 3rd set. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/4 "2018-07-07T23:01:44Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > (Halep’s at 1-1 in sets as I type this - actually I have a lot of PVR viewing ahead of me, so I probably already have a lot of catching up to do). Heh - behind, indeed. Upset of the tournament - Hsieh Su-Wei rallies back from a 5-2 third set deficit to overtake #1 world seed Halep. The Taiwnese has absolutely has no power, and relies on sneaky shots with _crazy_ angles. During her comeback she was hitting harder, though, eschewing her unpredictable finesse game. She got a long, deserving standing ovation at the end. ---
**Author:** ![Shearer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Shearer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shearer)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/5 "2018-07-08T14:35:01Z")
Looks like the final will have the lowest viewing figures ever in the UK ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/6 "2018-07-08T14:44:01Z")
> [@Shearer](#): > > Looks like the final will have the lowest viewing figures ever in the UK Federer/Nadal final? I don’t think so. On the woman’s side, yes. ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/7 "2018-07-08T16:50:00Z")
Djokovic wins a point in three different ways, but Umpire gives it to his opponent: [https://youtu.be/Kaw4bAXv8o8](https://youtu.be/Kaw4bAXv8o8) Unbelievable. Double bounce, touches the net, shot is out but Edmund wins the point. Disgraceful behaviour by Edmund. ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/8 "2018-07-08T17:21:52Z")
Anyone have experience queueing up to purchase Wimbledon tickets at 5pm? I am heading to London tomorrow and thinking about trying to get there/in. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/9 "2018-07-08T17:35:25Z")
> [@K364](#): > > Federer/Nadal final? I don’t think so. On the woman’s side, yes. Federer/Nadal final vs Engerland in a WC final? _crickets_ ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/10 "2018-07-08T18:01:09Z")
> [@Mr\_Shine](#): > > Federer/Nadal final vs Engerland in a WC final? _crickets_ On this side of the pond… Engerland in a WC final vs Federer/Nadal final? _crickets_ ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Shine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr_shine/32/464_2.png) [@Mr\_Shine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Shine)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/11 "2018-07-08T18:35:56Z")
The line you quoted did say …“in the UK” though. (Scottish Welsh and NorIrish viewing figures may still be slightly affected but English figures would go through the floor.) ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/12 "2018-07-08T19:07:52Z")
My bad, missed that. You’re correct. The FIFA final is 18:00 local time. I tried to find out when the tennis is played, but that IBM official site craftily hide that info from me. ---
**Author:** ![EricaRoche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3da27b/32.png) [@EricaRoche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EricaRoche)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/13 "2018-07-10T13:02:05Z")
Does anyone think that if Federer wins this, it’s probably inevitable that he’s doping? ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/14 "2018-07-10T14:18:54Z")
> [@EricaRoche](#): > > Does anyone think that if Federer wins this, it’s probably inevitable that he’s doping? Given that he the ATP does both in and out of tournament drug testing and Federer himself is on [record](https://usat.ly/2Nd2WXQ) as to wanting more testing, no //i\ ---
**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/15 "2018-07-10T14:24:36Z")
I’m looking at Nadal’s muscles and injury record and thinking steroids ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/16 "2018-07-10T14:48:36Z")
I think Federer’s style of play (and reduced schedule) is conducive to remaining competitive at this level without the need for doping. At least, I hope so. I don’t know how rigorous the ATP’s testing schedule is, but I think it’s pretty well up there. Certainly better than FIFA’s, for example (as far as I can tell). ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/17 "2018-07-10T15:19:48Z")
> [@EricaRoche](#): > > Does anyone think that if Federer wins this, it’s probably inevitable that he’s doping? You can ask this about Federer but not Nadal?! Federer’s physique doesn’t remotely suggest steroids. Nadal is the guy who is as strong as a gorilla. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/18 "2018-07-11T14:24:30Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > You can ask this about Federer but not Nadal?! Federer’s physique doesn’t remotely suggest steroids. Nadal is the guy who is as strong as a gorilla. This. In my more conspiratorial moments, I’ve often wondered about Nadal and other Spaniards like Verdasco and Bautista Agut, who definitely show more musculature than most other players, without question. (Lopez and Alamagro? Maybe less so, I spose) (Could be just insane training, possibly, but still, there’s moments when I wonder) Federer - I would become a Jehovahs Witness and walk around naked everywhere if it turned out Feds doped. His legendary training regimen is all he needs; there’s certainly no visible signs - _some_ degree of buffness, protruding chin or brows - to suggest (to me, anyway) that he’s been doping. Isn’t testing flawed because it’s always announced - never randomly carried out? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/19 "2018-07-11T16:21:07Z")
Federer-Anderson is at 11-10 in the 5th set right now. With no signs of stopping soon, apparently… I don’t think there’s been anything close to a break in the last 10 games or so. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484/20 "2018-07-11T16:38:15Z")
And just a few minutes later, Anderson gets a break and the win. A year ago (I think it was), I saw Anderson lose to Zverev in the Citi Open finals, and aside from his serve (which is a cannon), I thought Anderson wasn’t particularly good. But obviously he’s either stepped up his game since then or he was having an off game that day. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wimbledon-18/817484.md?page=2)