# windows 10 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 4, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595 "2015-11-04T06:47:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mrcool92501](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@mrcool92501](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrcool92501)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/1 "2015-11-04T06:47:58Z")
i’m considering upgradung to it. like the denizens of the str8 dope who have already done the upgrade to win10 w/ opinions of it. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/2 "2015-11-04T06:55:23Z")
From solely a gaming perspective, or in general? ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/3 "2015-11-04T06:59:10Z")
A minor point is that Windows 10 blocks the use of legal game discs like Civilisation 4. So I reverted back to Windows 8. ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/4 "2015-11-04T11:50:04Z")
> [@glee](#): > > A minor point is that Windows 10 blocks the use of legal game discs like Civilisation 4. > > So I reverted back to Windows 8. Well, the issue is that it blocks outdated, potentially harmful DRM on some old games. But really, something like Civ 4 can be purchased on a steam sale for a couple of bucks these days. It’s probably not going to be an issue for the OP, unless he’s still has a ton of ld disc based games that he plays. Hell, I have a giftable copy of Civ IV if you’re interested. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/5 "2015-11-04T18:51:03Z")
> [@glee](#): > > A minor point is that Windows 10 blocks the use of legal game discs like Civilisation 4. I raised a ticket with 2K support today about this. They say they can help if I send them a photo of the disc and packaging together with a piece of paper with my email address and ticket number on. Maybe they’ll give me a key for the Steam version? ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/6 "2015-11-05T00:42:26Z")
> [@glee](#): > > A minor point is that Windows 10 blocks the use of legal game discs like Civilisation 4. > > So I reverted back to Windows 8. Sounds like it really put the dung in “upgradung” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/7 "2015-11-05T02:35:56Z")
> [@Kinthalis](#): > > Well, the issue is that it blocks outdated, potentially harmful DRM on some old games. > > But really, something like Civ 4 can be purchased on a steam sale for a couple of bucks these days. It’s probably not going to be an issue for the OP, unless he’s still has a ton of ld disc based games that he plays. Hell, I have a giftable copy of Civ IV if you’re interested. Yes, SecuROM and friends were basically malware that caused innumerable issues for OS and software stability\*, as well as even security holes on occasion. Microsoft finally just canonized it as malware. That the software is legal is immaterial. - Including at least one bug that prevented your CD ROM drive from being usable. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2015, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/8 "2015-11-05T04:07:30Z")
Worked for me on my three machines, including an old one running 7, a newer one running 8 and a newer one running 8.1. (But on a fourth old machine running 7, I was unable to move up to 8 despite Microsoft’s app that determined that 8 would work on that machine, so really there is no guarantee that moving up will succeed.) I prefer the user interface of 10 to that of 7, and of course 8 and 8.1 are disasters as far as that goes. The more I use 10, the more I very much like the interface. I had to reload a couple of drivers because the windows drivers for those old multi-function printers were only for printing, rather than scanning etc. The installs all went well, but of course given the size of the download, I started each download before going to bed for the night. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/9 "2015-11-11T18:21:55Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > I raised a ticket with 2K support today about this. They say they can help if I send them a photo of the disc and packaging together with a piece of paper with my email address and ticket number on. Maybe they’ll give me a key for the Steam version? 2K did send me a Steam code for the Civ 4 Complete edition. An edition that includes Colonization too, which I didn’t previously own. That’s good service. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/10 "2015-11-11T19:06:31Z")
My only complaint so far is not really with Windows 10 _per se_ but with the software routine that does the upgrade to it. I have two virtual machines, one for Windows 7 and one for Windows 10. (Skipped 8). The Win 10 virtual HD was a clone of the Win 7. I first did all the then-available Win 7 updates, which caused the “upgrade to Windows 10” option to become available. I entered the queue to be updated when it was “my turn” and kept using it so as to catch any additional Win 7 updates that came down the pike before it was indeed “my turn”, then when I got the notification, I cloned the virtual HD and did the Win 10 upgrade on the clone. Problem is, I can’t find a way to tell the Windows Updater in the Win 7 environment that no, I don’t want to install Win 10 on this copy but yes, I would like to continue to install other relevant updates as they become available. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-10/736595/11 "2015-11-12T04:24:07Z")
I have upgraded Win7, Win8.0, Win8.1 and Win10 previews to Win10 with no issue. These included lesser named branded AIO, 5 different laptops and a tablet. FWIW, I think it lives up to the internal Microsoft Kool-Aid as the “best Windows ever.” Honestly, for 99% of folks, I don’t see why you wouldn’t upgrade as it is kinda the best of Win7 and Win8 in a updated operating system with the best security out there. Plus you can roll back if you don’t like it. There hasn’t been any substantial issue come to light since the launch. If you want to be really conservative, you could wait say 1 more month to upgrade. The big update that includes all the stuff that wasn’t ready for launch is coming this month (if the date hasn’t changed), and you could wait for that to land and a couple of weeks just to be absolutely sure nothing is blowing up. Basically, Win10 acts like an operating system should. It’s got a good user interface, is secure, and works pretty seamlessly. And a free upgrade – what’s not to like?