Windows 8 is the worst piece of shit I've ever used in my life.

So you move it down a pixel and it returns to it’s former size, and uncovers the other window. It’s not a case of “coming too close to the border”, either - your pointer either hits the edge of the screen or not. As far as I can tell, there’s no “zone of effect”, for want of a better phrase.

All that said, the option to customise that snapping behaviour beyond simply turning it on or off - for example, to allow snapping to the top to fill the top half of the screen - would be very welcome, along with allowing snapping to the bottom of the screen.

Ok. All I can say is that I used Aero Snap for many months and found the time-wasting downsides more burdensome than the rare upsides. I didn’t have an opinion of the feature to begin with. Those who consistently use 1-2 programs and have a widescreen might find the feature bearable.

As it happens, I also like to view extensions of known filetypes.

You do realize the gesture works in the other direction as well, right? You don’t have to resize your window if it gets resized by one of the edges.

Welcome to Windows. Please fill out this lengthy form to tell us whether you want to turn on or off new features you haven’t seen yet.

Yeah.

I don’t think I understand your point. Yes I realize windows get resized by placement, which is the problem we are discussing.

For months I thought it was a bug, now I find out it’s a “feature”.

Are you complaining that Windows 8 hides file extensions (like 7, Vista and XP before)?

Rather that than drive me crazy with a new feature I don’t want and not being given any hint on how to disable.

You’re really expecting Microsoft to ship their new OS versions with all the new features turned off, in case someone doesn’t like them?

In the midst of all this being driven crazy, did you try googling anything like Window maximizes when I drag it up or Windows keep going full screen ?

Because that’s really what you should have done.

Would you at least agree that there are some design decisions that are made by MS and others (myself included) that are “poor” in the grand scheme of things?

I can’t quite tell if you think that MS can’t make a poor design decision or if you just happen to think that “most” people you are aware of feel this is a good design decision.

Microsoft have made plenty of poor decisions, but shipping a feature rich, easily customisable OS isn’t one of them. The Windows GUI is so easy to change to your liking it’s really a minor point in evaluating the OS as a whole.

ETA that is, the default state of the GUI. The availability of features is obviously important.

Of course. I doubt any product is ever perfect - especially as everyone has different expectations and wishes.

But the thing we’re talking about here is a feature that (despite some people disliking it) MS is a little bit proud of - it’s unreasonable to expect that they would leave it turned off by default.

And it’s just plain silly to sit there privately grinding your teeth about some annoyance over the way a feature works, without ever exploring whether it can be changed. Pretty much any plain-English version of “why do my windows keep going big”, typed into Google, returns a result telling you how to turn it off.

When I bought my new Win8 laptop, edge swiping was turned on (in the trackpad settings) - this meant that the charms bar kept popping up in my face, which I found inconvenient. It wasted literally a whole minute of my life finding out how to change it, and applying the change.

Whether MS likes it or not (or any company for that matter) isn’t how you judge whether a design decision is good or bad (implied is “from the perspective of the consumer”). The users/consumers of the product judge that.

Is someone doing that?

I mean you can drag the title bar of a maximized window away from the top, and it’ll return to its previous size. If it snaps to full-screen when you’re moving a window, don’t let go, and move away from the edges, and it’ll return to its original size. Its ease of undoing and avoiding seems out of place with your complaints.

Agreed. And from the perspective of this particular customer (and I’m not alone), screen edge window sizing triggers are a generally good and useful feature. Now what?

Obviously if there are two sets of customers who want diametrically opposite things in a product, one set is going to be disappointed - and if the scenario in question is a new feature that the supplier wants to showcase (but can be easily and quickly turned off), it makes no sense at all to ship it turned off - If you ship it switched off, people who might like it may never discover it - so you ship it switched on, and people who find they don’t like it can very easily turn it off.

Looks to be. I mean, aside from your own comment about thinking it was a bug for months, I’m assuming Mogle wouldn’t be complaining about being ‘driven crazy’ if the annoyance had only persisted for a minute or two.

Actually, ‘driven crazy’ was hyperbole for ‘being mildly inconvenienced once’, I guess I went a bit over top. My complaint is mainly that MS hid the setting to disable this feature so well that you have to turn to Google to find it. Had it been somewhere in say, desktop settings, it would not been an issue.

There are a bazillion (OK, my turn for hyperbole) little settings in Windows - they all have to be somewhere - and that somewhere is not always where everyone thinks to look first. Google is now the easiest - and standard - way to solve these problems.

Most of which do not have much potential to directly annoy(except automatic updates, I’ll grant you that one) the user and are at least somewhat logically placed.
Unless of course you think that disabling Snap is primarily intended for users with some kind of disability, in which case the location in perfectly logical.

You’ve been saying this is a desktop behaviour setting, but if anything, I think it’s a window behaviour setting - Microsoft seems to have decided it’s a mouse behaviour setting.

<shrug> but it hardly matters where the option is. There are so many options to configure, looking for them hiearchically is almost never as quick as just googling (even if they are in a logical category).

Take a look at the configuration settings for Office (from version 2007 onward) sometime. They’re all organised into neat categories, and it’s still often difficult to find the one you want just by looking.

In which case they could have put it in the mouse settings, which was the second place I looked.

Fundamentally this isn’t really a big deal, but I still think they could have handled this one better.

Like how the taskbar is locked by default(if I’m not mistaken) in Win7, so people don’t move it by accident and then don’t know how to move it back. The feature itself it fine, but finding out about it by accident with no explanation can be frustrating.

Lock the taskbar, lock the taskbar.