Uh, ok, that makes all the difference in the world.
Your proof Win8 isn’t worse is that 8.1 reverses most of the crap and the rest can be reversed with 3rd party app.
Awesome argument, you are going to convince the internet for sure with that one.
Hey… it’s an even-numbered Microsoft OS release. Anyone who’s paid a tiny amount of attention knew it was going to suck sweaty balls.
Windows 9 will probably be good (they’ll manage to fix everything crappy about 8 and make it useable again), and they’ll overreach on Windows 10 and it’ll stink like a porta-potty on a Houston construction site in August.
My Windows 8.1 laptop continues to function smoothly and easily and I am able to do everything I did in 7 and more. I haven’t had to reverse anything, I don’t use any touchscreen stuff and I haven’t installed any third-party apps.
When you’re trying to spin a problem away, you want to avoid outright admitting its existence and nature in such blunt terms.
Oh, well, perhaps we should be grateful that Microsoft didn’t come up with “cosmetic changes” to “highlight” the option of using goatse as your wallpaper or making each icon take up a quarter of the screen height. (Oh, wait. They did that. The big-icons thing, not the goatse thing.)
ROFL 
ROFL again.
Goatse will be in the NEXT iteration :eek:
Perhaps it is because I have used computers for so long that I can recognize some serious deficits when I see them. I am not into putting others down because they like something that I don’t; that is a waste of time for both of us.
The problem arises when I try to use some powerful tool that has worked for me on one platform, then seriously vomits on a newer version. Case in point: Octave for Windows. I use a lot of Matlab scripts in Octave on a daily basis for work that churn without problems in Windows 7. I don’t know if they work in XP, but hell, who cares- I moved on. But now, when loading a simple 15MB jpg file into Windows 8, the memory allocation reaches 896MB, then seg faults. The same script works flawlessly in Windows 7. A programming error on behalf of the developers? Perhaps. But they tested their development platform in the only Windows OS that was available at the time and it worked perfectly. As it does in Linux now, and as it did for me in Windows 7 for the last two years. Don’t flame me; I seriously know that software is a complex and imperfect science…more than you can imagine. I have designed and programmed computers since the first Altair 8800 that I acquired as a first computer system. My first monitor was a BW tv with the IF strip pulled out, and its inputs soldered into the graphics card I designed based on the TV Typewriter cookbook by Don Lancaster. Some things worked; some things smoked. The thing is, Windows 8 SUCKS. It is supposed to be the successor to a powerful, and skillfully written OS, but seems to forget that a lot of people want to perform actual work with a computer and don’t give a flying FUCK about posting friday night ramblings to social networks. Fuck Facebook. Fuck Twitter. Fuck Microsoft’s accounts and STORE. I have to calculate a FFT from a dataset sucked from a velocity profile that could cost someone seriously if it is incorrect. And now, it is incorrect. Yea, us old farts really get cranky if not properly serviced.
Hope you get your email sorted out.
By the way, Bubbadog, thanks for the welcome…I apologize for coming across as such an asshat.
Cheers-
Gramps
Well for what it is worth, I have read that Microsoft regards Win 8 with the same disdain usually reserved for Vista and Windows 9 will be the next Windows 7.
I will say that Windows 8 is great on a phone. That is what it was made for and that is where it should have stayed. I have tried Win8 on the desktop and I’m always reinstalling 7 after a day at the most. Now I don’t have to worry about upgrading to 8 at all. I’ll just skip right over it.
I’ll add myself to the list of people who won’t buy hardware running MS products again.
Newish laptop, bought with Windows 8, functioned perfectly. “Upgraded” to 8.1, now get constant wifi connection problems, won’t connect when it wakes up etc. It’s not a hardware issue, as it was perfect before. I’ve tried updating the drivers, no better.
When this machine dies, I’ll go Apple.
These sorts of issues have persuaded me to take periodic disk images of my setup and save them to an external hard drive. I haven’t fully implemented that plan though. I am currently working with Macrium Reflect Backup.
Every single laptop I have this crap on has removed my damn Hard drive D:, there is no support from the aholes at Microsoft, who only want more freakin money for firstly screwing up my partition on so called helping me install windows 8, then have the nerve to want money to assist me with relocating and mounting my hard drive…WTF, I swear I hate this entire windows 8 mircosoft beauracracy and they are all leaches, I absolutely hate them, they sabotage our systems and until the point of utter uselessness and then drain us for more time and money…Ugh, I wish they would just stop making changes and upgrades before we are alld in cyber oblivion with no path back to civilization. forgive my spelling, but im in no mood for this crap tonight!:mad:
Yes, because selling exactly the same product forever is a viable business model.
My latest fun with 8.1: Trying to get on to our secure Wi-fi network, I discovered that Microsoft decided to remove the right-click ‘properties’ menu for a wi-fi profile. I can’t find a way to edit an existing one. However, you can edit the properties for a new one, so I deleted the old one and re-created it.
That’s when I discovered that Microsoft also removed WPA-Enterprise from the list of protocols, and TKIP from the list of encryption methods - both of which are required by my network. Googling it, I discovered a support thread where Microsoft explained that they removed it because ‘WPA2 is more secure’. They violated a cardinal rule which says that when you bring out a new release of your software, you don’t take away critical features from existing users. Microsoft has done this repeatedly with the latest versions of Windows and Office (removing the ‘to-do’ bar from Outlook is another great example of boneheaded behavior from Redmond).
The complaint that started the thread was from a student who upgraded to 8.1 and could no longer get on his college’s wi-fi network. Microsoft’s response: “Change your router”. Yes, I’m sure that kid will have all sorts of luck demanding that the college IT department change out its hardware for him… The more likely response is that the college will tell the kid to dump Windows 8.1. That’s what I’d do.
Anyway, the functionality is still there - Microsoft just screwed up the UI. So I managed to get it working using NETSH and manually injecting the parameters on the command-line, but non-technically savvy people on old wi-fi networks will be pulling out their hair for a long time.
I’ve been using 8.1 daily since it came out, and I still hate it. If I didn’t need it for my work, I would have dumped it for Windows 7 a long time ago.
Well now I understand why my daughter’s new computer has become a useless pile of shit. Wifi is completely gone since the latest update but if she doesn’t keep the updates her computer keeps shutting down. We connected directly and there’s STILL connection issues. And all kinds of other fuckeduppedness is going on. No, we’re not technically savvy people and we’re also poor people who saved all year to get a new computer and now it’s pretty much trash.
MS doesn’t have to change the UI for pointless reasons.
Incidentally, Win8 has incredibly low market penetration. Check it out (desktops):
Win7 51%
WinXP 25%
Win 8/8.1 12%
OS X 7%
Vista 3%
Linux 2%
Screwing over your customers doesn’t sound like a great idea either. MS may be king of the desktops, but they are toxic waste in the cell phone market, even though their mobile OS isn’t bad. People are getting tired of being dicked around.
News: Rumors say Windows 9 (codename: Threshold) will be out next Spring. Previews start next month (or maybe early October) and the Betas will be updated every couple of weeks.
http://www.winbeta.org/news/upcoming-windows-9-tech-preview-set-be-updated-twice-month-new-builds
Out with the charms, in with the start menu, apparently. There are other rumors about upgrade pricing, which should be weighted even less heavily: I’m not saying they’re wrong, I’m saying they are rumor.
If we must speak of 8.1, let us not omit the DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error that shuts down the computer without warning and the fix for which is apparently a matter of corporate indifference.
Rather works for water suppliers.
Not really. That’s why you get branded mineral waters, sparkling water, vitamin water, flavoured waters and so forth. None of these may be necessary, especially when you get good quality water from the tap (although not everyone does), but there’s clearly a demand for them.
Whether Windows 8 is as useful as Vitamin Water is a matter of opinion, though. I like Windows 8 and drink tap water…