# Windows laptop without bloatware? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 13, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-laptop-without-bloatware/762638 "2016-08-13T00:05:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-laptop-without-bloatware/762638/1 "2016-08-13T00:05:54Z")
Looking for a new Windows laptop that does not come preloaded with all kinds of extra software I don’t need. I hope they exist . I would prefer not to buy some obscure brand. I’ve had good luck with Toshiba and Lenovo in the past. ---
**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-laptop-without-bloatware/762638/2 "2016-08-13T00:54:01Z")
You may want to give up on getting a clean laptop up front and just make sure you also get a Windows install disk (or have some legitimate way of downloading one). My Lenovo came with the install USB stick that allowed for a clean reinstall. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-laptop-without-bloatware/762638/3 "2016-08-13T01:10:34Z")
[The Microsoft online store](https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/All-PCs-tablets/categoryID.69404700?icid=Homepage_LeftNav_04_PC_en_US) has [Signature edition PCs](https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600?icid=PC_Cat_Signature_ModD_06082015&lc=1033)from many makers, without bloatware. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-laptop-without-bloatware/762638/4 "2016-08-13T01:12:48Z")
So remove the bloatware. It should take less than an hour. ---
**Author:** ![Heracles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heracles/32/487_2.png) [@Heracles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heracles)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-laptop-without-bloatware/762638/5 "2016-08-13T01:55:27Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > So remove the bloatware. It should take less than an hour. For this purpose, I’ve used [PC Decrapifier](https://www.pcdecrapifier.com/) in the past and it worked pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![Clark\_Cello](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Clark\_Cello](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_Cello)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-laptop-without-bloatware/762638/6 "2016-08-13T02:28:22Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > [The Microsoft online store](https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/All-PCs-tablets/categoryID.69404700?icid=Homepage_LeftNav_04_PC_en_US) has [Signature edition PCs](https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600?icid=PC_Cat_Signature_ModD_06082015&lc=1033)from many makers, without bloatware. Seconded. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-laptop-without-bloatware/762638/7 "2016-08-13T05:07:56Z")
Thirded for the MSFT store. I used to work at MSFT, departure wasn’t my choice, BUT the Signature Edition PC’s are the bee’s knees. I’ll never buy a PC that I don’t get at the MSFT store. It’s clean, never had the crapware on it, hardware has been optimized to run Windows efficiently. Buying a core i7 with crapware degrades performance to where you really only get core i5 performance. So, why pay for an expensive Intel chip if you’re just going to let the crapware suck out the performance?