# Windows on a Mac, Apple-approved! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 6, 2006, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507 "2006-04-06T01:11:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/1 "2006-04-06T01:11:16Z")
> **[Newsroom](https://www.apple.com/newsroom/)** > > Apple Newsroom is the source for news about Apple. Read press releases, get updates, watch video and download images. It’s still in beta, but it looks awesome. Yeah, you could do this before without Apple’s blessing, but the hardware support was limited. This has drivers for everything. Damn…I currently have a PowerBook and a Thinkpad (I need a Windows laptop for work), and haven’t been planning any upgrades for a while, but this might force me to pounce on a MacBook Pro. I wonder how many people this will push over the edge… ---
**Author:** ![FlyingRamenMonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@FlyingRamenMonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRamenMonster)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/2 "2006-04-06T02:32:07Z")
Next they just need to start selling Windows machines in a Windows _box_. I can really see business taking off for them after that. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/3 "2006-04-06T03:04:53Z")
> [@FlyingRamenMonster](#): > > Next they just need to start selling Windows machines in a Windows _box_. I can really see business taking off for them after that. Really. It seems like Apple is moving steadily in the direction of becoming a clone of Dell. In a few years, they’ll be the iPod Corporation, and the only thing different about their computers will be the case. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/4 "2006-04-06T03:12:38Z")
> [@Absolute](#): > > I wonder how many people this will push over the edge… \windoze, on a _MAC_, okayed by _Apple_?!? \ MacTech HATE WINDOZE, MACTECH SMASH WINDOZE!!! SMASH SMASH SMASH!!! (how’s _that_ for “pushed over the edge”, oh, yopu didn’t mean _that_ way… well, at least it’s officially an _unsupported_ config so i can at least tell customers that _I_ won’t have to support their bloody windoze configs, if the hardware works in Mac OS, then it’s working fine, got a problem with windoze, take it up with micro$oft, it’s not my problem… well…i guess this is _one_ way of getting viruses, spyware and adware on a Mac… on the upside, however (Dear OG, am i saying there’s an _upside_ to this?!?, MUST…BLEACH…BRAIN!!!) at least i’ll have a larger amount of games to choose from… personal reccomendation, run the app and windoze from it’s own dedicated hard drive (internal in a G4/G5 tower, or external FireWire for portables/iMac/MacMini), so if worse comes to wors, ahem…_WHEN_ worst comes to worst, you can simply wipe and reinstall windoze, there’s no way i’d allow any form of windoze free reign on any of my drives, it’d be relegated to a easily-disconnectable “quarrantine” drive… it’d also give me a way to safely poke/prod/torture that poor, bloated Mac OS ripoff with no risk to my _REAL_ OS… ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/5 "2006-04-06T03:18:21Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Really. It seems like Apple is moving steadily in the direction of becoming a clone of Dell. In a few years, they’ll be the iPod Corporation, and the only thing different about their computers will be the case. i don’t think so… to clarify… > [@Phil Schiller](#): > > “_ **Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows** _, but many customers have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple’s superior hardware now that we use Intel processors,” said Philip Schiller, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing. “We think Boot Camp makes the Mac even more appealing to Windows users considering making the switch.” besides, the day Apple abandons the Mac OS for windoze will be the day that Dante’s Inferno glaciates… ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/6 "2006-04-06T03:26:12Z")
Hard core Mac-heads should be thrilled with this. If Mac OS is so much better than Windows as is the common claim, this will convert a lot of people to their cause. Lots of folks who would have never bought a Mac before this will give it a shot now, I’ll bet. ---
**Author:** ![urban1a](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e47c2d/32.png) [@urban1a](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urban1a)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/7 "2006-04-06T03:40:34Z")
“but many customers have expressed their interest to run Windows on Apple’s superior hardware now that **we use Intel processors** ” And that makes the computer different from any other Intel computer, exactly HOW? Bob ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/8 "2006-04-06T05:53:12Z")
Yay! I can run an overpriced OS on overpriced hardware! 😃 (Don’t hurt me.) ---
**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/9 "2006-04-06T06:50:06Z")
Call me when I can run MacOS on my (cheap, self-made) Windows machine. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/10 "2006-04-06T11:45:26Z")
> [@MacTech](#): > > i don’t think so… to clarify… > > > [@Phil Schiller](#): > > > > “ **Apple has no desire or plan to sell or support Windows…** Wow. Looks like I hit a nerve there. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/11 "2006-04-06T12:03:43Z")
Looks more like an artery to me. Anyway, this really does push me towards getting a Mac… I want the iLife stuff, but I want to get a computer to play CoH on, and I don’t really want to re-buy Office 97 (you know you have to, more or less)… and this just makes Macs more appealing. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/12 "2006-04-06T13:47:18Z")
nope, no nerve hit there at all, just wanted to clarify the fact that Apple has no plans to switch to an inferior OS… funny thing is, from what i’ve been reading on rumorsites and such (which should be taken with a grain of salt) is that windoze xp running on a Mac (Core Duo MacBook Pro) actually runs _faster_ than on an equivalent pc… the current debate is to how it’s going to be implemented in Lepoard (10.5), is it going to be running in a layer llike Classic (OS 9.2.2) did in OS X on the PowerPC based machines, or is it going to be a seperate environment accessed through “Fast User Switching”, essentially having Mac OS and windoze xp running concurrently and the user can switch between them… i’m hoping more for the “FUS” option, the _last_ thing i want is to have windoze running _inside_ the Mac OS itself… since Boot Camp allows windoze full hardware-level access (the only thing emulated is apparently the PC BIOS), “FUS” would be the more logical choice… as long as i don’t have to support windoze officially, i could care less, my job is to fix _Mac_ hardware and software issues, _NOT_ windoze, if the Mac side works, the machine is working properly, take up windows problems with micro$oft, it’s not my job ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/13 "2006-04-06T14:11:49Z")
You know what makes Mac users really look clever? When they misspell Windows in order to insert insults that sort of make sense into the name! I got no dog in this battle because it’s an issue that couldn’t have any less relevance to me - but seriously, MacTech, cut back on the coffee. That or get rid of the general defensiveness. There’s nothing to worry about. It’s not like Apple’s going to stop selling MacOS, so you can tone down the holy zeal with which you defend it. ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/14 "2006-04-06T14:17:28Z")
Aww, you’re no fun anymore 😉 after all, the OP _wanted_ someone to be “pushed over the edge” by this announcement, i was simply playing a role, ACTING!!, yeah… that’s it, acting! 😉 and the Academy Award for best overhyped dramatism goes to…\ MacTech! \ \ ahh, screw you guys, i’m going home… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/15 "2006-04-06T14:18:09Z")
As mentioned upthread, this removes the last barrier for me to get a Mac (other than the money required for a new computer, of course). I’ve been impressed by Macs for years, but I didn’t want to buy all my software again. It’s alnmost time for me to buy a new computer. :: plan plan :: :: save save :: Of course, if certain major software vendors, one of whose names begins with A, had offered no-cost ‘side-grades’ to swap their Windows software for non-Intel Mac equivalents, I probably would have a Mac already. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/16 "2006-04-06T14:21:18Z")
Is a [Penny Arcade](http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/03/03) strip appropriate for this thread? I think it is. What are your… preferences? ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/17 "2006-04-06T15:36:59Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > As mentioned upthread, this removes the last barrier for me to get a Mac (other than the money required for a new computer, of course). I’ve been impressed by Macs for years, but I didn’t want to buy all my software again. > > It’s alnmost time for me to buy a new computer. > > :: plan plan :: > :: save save :: > > Of course, if certain major software vendors, one of whose names begins with A, had offered no-cost ‘side-grades’ to swap their Windows software for non-Intel Mac equivalents, I probably would have a Mac already. I bet there’s tons of users like you. This idea seems like a real no-brainer now that they’ve switched to more compatible hardware. Being able to run either platform on one computer is a huge advantage and it reduces the cost of switching to the Mac essentially to nil (well, beyond the somewhat higher hardware prices . . . ) ---
**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/18 "2006-04-06T15:46:58Z")
I’d also imagine windows would run a bit more stably on a Mac, mainly due to the consistent hardware and drivers on a Mac, you don’t have to deal with the 15 billion some-odd possible hardware combinations like in the PC world, a Mac is a Mac, all MacBook Pros/iMacs/Minis/etc… have a consistent group of hardware components/drivers, there may be slightvariations between the hard drive sizes, and video cards, but nothing like the chaos in the PC world, motherboards/processors/sound hardware/etc… are all consistent… ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/19 "2006-04-06T15:49:48Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > You know what makes Mac users really look clever? When they misspell Windows in order to insert insults that sort of make sense into the name! I agree. The deliberate misspellings of “Windows” make the Apple fanatics look childish and pathetic. And it tends to discourage those of us who might consider trying to use an Apple computer. ---
**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507/20 "2006-04-06T16:28:04Z")
Good news for gamers: Boot Camp is looking [FAST](http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20060406/tc_pcworld/125325). =^^= [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/windows-on-a-mac-apple-approved/351507.md?page=2)