# Wine recommendation please! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 23, 2004, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382 "2004-11-23T23:44:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ass_For_A_Hat)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/21 "2004-11-24T21:23:53Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Pinot Gris/Grigio is a white grape… how pray tell, do they make a red wine from it? > > 🙂 If they wanted to make red wine from it, they’d just leave the skins on during fermentation. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2004, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/22 "2004-11-24T21:34:11Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Cabernets might be a bit bold, and as a non-wine drinker you probably won’t like it. Exactly. This is why I recommended not going with a Cabernet. I have a number of non-wine drinkers in my family. They only like sweet wines, like White Zinfandel. I have recently gotten some of them to branch out and try some sweet Rieslings. They’ve tried red wines and dry whites, but don’t like them 😕 My now-mother-in-law got me drunk at a wine-tasting room in Santa Barbara once for this reason. We were trying various wines, and she and her sister in law didn’t like any of them, but I did, so they would give their extra wine to me. I was… ah… not feeling quite myself by the time we left the tasting room. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/23 "2004-11-25T02:24:20Z")
I’m bringing a couple bottles of one of my favorite Chardonnay’s [Toad Hollow](http://www.toadhollow.com/how_to_find.asp) (a link to where to find it). It’s got a nice body to it but won’t overshadow the turkey and only about $12.00 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/24 "2004-11-25T02:28:54Z")
> [@Ass For A Hat](#): > > If they wanted to make red wine from it, they’d just leave the skins on during fermentation. But the skin is whi… ah heck, nevermind. Whatever you say. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/25 "2004-11-25T02:37:53Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > Pinot Gris/Grigio is a white grape… how pray tell, do they make a red wine from it? > > 🙂 [Cite](http://www.terroir-france.com/wine/pinotgris.htm). ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/26 "2004-11-25T02:59:32Z")
Psst. It was an editing error – I corrected it in a subsequent post. Enjoy the (red) zin and the (white) pinot gris and give thanks for expanding free trade. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/27 "2004-11-25T03:02:30Z")
> [@manhattan](#): > > Psst. It was an editing error – I corrected it in a subsequent post. Enjoy the (red) zin and the (white) pinot gris and give thanks for expanding free trade. Yeah, I figured that, hence the smilie. And I would have let it go, but this is a board for fighting ignorance, and it’s not possible to make a red wine with a white grape (although it is possible to make a white(ish) wine with a red grape). The last two posts were directed at **AFAH** , not you good sir. Have a great Thanksgiving! ---
**Author:** ![slai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@slai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slai)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/28 "2004-11-25T03:08:32Z")
My boyfriend and I were invited to a friends house for Thanksgiving. We don’t know much about wine, so we went to Total Wine. The gentleman there helped us pick out these: Armida 2001, a Pinot Noir Adler Fels 2003, a white wine Julienas 2003, a red Beaujolais wine ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/29 "2004-11-25T03:21:56Z")
Aw, crap! I went and forgot my own smiley in return. You have a good one too! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/30 "2004-11-25T03:30:07Z")
Here’s what we’re taking over to my folks’ place tomorrow: - Chateau Grande Cassagne [Costières de Nîmes Rosé](http://www.terroir-france.com/wine/pinotgris.htm) (Rhone Valley, FRA) ~$7 - Cline Cellars [Ancient Vines Carignane](http://www.clinecellars.com/press/current_accolades.cfm#carig) (Contra Costa, CA, USA) ~$13 - D’Arenberg [The Stump Jump](http://www.darenberg.com.au/default2.php) Grenache/Shiraz/Mourvèdre (McLaren Vale, AUS) ~$13 The first one I like with turkey, as it has a lot of fruit flavor, somewhere between strawberry and cranberry, yet is light, dry and crisp. The second I’m not sure is really ready to drink, but I had a glass of a different year a couple of months ago and have wanted for an opportunity to open a bottle. The last one was a request (bring an Australian Grenache) from my father. I think he read an article or something. The shop I was visiting didn’t have a lot of options in Aussy Grenaches, although I’ve found D’Arenberg’s other wines quite nice for the money in the past, so I’m holding out some hope here. ---
**Author:** ![Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ass_For_A_Hat)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/31 "2004-11-25T03:42:20Z")
> [@ShibbOleth](#): > > AFAH, not you good sir. Hmmm…since it’s Thanksgiving, I suppose there’s no sense in a dust up. I will offer this in my defense though… [These people](http://www.kingestate.com/Domaine/Gallery/Harvest2004/H04-3.htm) claim to have Pinot Gris with red skin. ---
**Author:** ![Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ass_For_A_Hat)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/32 "2004-11-25T04:11:14Z")
Sorry, one more thing in my defense. Though I’m not as right as I originally thought I was, this is from Karen MacNeil’s \*The Wine Bible \* pg 61: “In the vineyard, pinot gris grapes can be any color from bluish silver to mauve-pink to ashen yellow.” Sorry, no link. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382/33 "2004-11-25T07:20:59Z")
Years ago, I had some dynamite fruit wine, from a small botique winery. It was 1/2 cabernet and 1/5cherry…it was spectacular! Anybdoy know of a drinkable cherry wine? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wine-recommendation-please/276382.md?page=1)