# Winner of the mother of the year award **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2005, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178 "2005-04-13T20:29:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FatBaldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@FatBaldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FatBaldGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/1 "2005-04-13T20:29:55Z")
[From CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/13/daughters.sold.ap/index.html) > [@](#): > > OKEECHOBEE, Florida (AP) – A woman was arrested for allegedly forcing her 12-year-old daughter into prostitution and trading a 14-year-old daughter for a car. > [@](#): > > The youngest girl and her mother were living out of their car, and would sell sex for food and an occasional shower at the men’s homes, according to a report by Okeechobee County Sheriff’s Detective K.J. Ammons. > > The youngest daughter is three months pregnant, the report said; she was 11 when her mother first forced her to have sex with a man. The older daughter refused to be a prostitute and was allegedly sold for a car. Why do I feel like capital punishment is too good for some people? ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/2 "2005-04-13T21:12:14Z")
Well, this strengthens the case for Florida being voted off for “American Survivor”. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/3 "2005-04-13T21:13:20Z")
The mother didn’t even get the car that she traded her daughter for. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/4 "2005-04-13T21:24:12Z")
This is not that odd, sadly. I understand that similar things happen with the scum-end of society all too often, but it’s not money that motivates it. Some woman moves in with a scumbag, toses her daughter out or lets him use her, so she can keep in with him. Sick and sad but true. The irony of the world is this: I can often sympathize much more with the idiots who actually go out and commit crimes more than many who stand near them. Many people who knock off liquor stores aren’t evil, they’re just very, very, stupid. People like this, though, they eat at society like a hungry maggots. It’s one of the reasons I’ve decided that the basic fabric of human nature is frivolous, mindless evil. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/5 "2005-04-13T21:24:58Z")
All the men involved need to be in prison as well. Any and all of the men who raped that little girl need to be castrated, jailed and branded. The mother needs to go away for life. I’m glad the piece of shit who “bought” the 14 year old was arrested but what can he be charged with? Kidnapping? White slavery? Possibly rape? The most disgusting thing about this story is how (apparently) easy it is to find men who are willing to pay to have sex with a little girl. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/6 "2005-04-13T21:25:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Both girls have been turned over to the Department of Children & Families. Oh! Well, I am sure they’ll be OK now. ---
**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/7 "2005-04-13T22:21:17Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > The most disgusting thing about this story is how (apparently) easy it is to find men who are willing to pay to have sex with a little girl. :mad: This just needed to be said again. ---
**Author:** ![Shabadu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/46a35a/32.png) [@Shabadu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shabadu)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2005, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/8 "2005-04-13T23:06:45Z")
Unfortunately, stories like this don’t surprise me anymore. I work with kids who have been taken from their homes because of abuse and neglect, and unfortunately things like this happen more often than you think. The problem with these cases are a lot of times the courts will still put reunification with the mother as the best option. They will take parenting classes and pay restitution and go through mandatory therapy, and they will get their kids back. Now this is not true in some cases, but it happens often. The kids are in the system now, which can or cannot be helpful to them. They are old enough now to fight the system. Unfortunately this 12-year-old will have a child with the option to parent and possibly continue problems. I wish all the best for these kids. Hopefully they can find a therapist who is willing to invest and that they can form a relationship with. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/9 "2005-04-14T05:27:46Z")
Oh. My. God. You know, any decent mother would rob a bank herself before allowing her child to be a prostitute-especially at eleven years old. Eleven. Shit, tomorrow, when I see my mother, I’m giving her a huge hug. ---
**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/10 "2005-04-14T05:53:13Z")
> [@Beadalin](#): > > Oh! Well, I am sure they’ll be OK now. Is this some kind of sarcasm? What do you think should have been done with the poor girls? People are scum. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/11 "2005-04-14T12:13:11Z")
> [@racinchikki](#): > > Is this some kind of sarcasm? What do you think should have been done with the poor girls? Florida has a recent history of losing track of kids in this program, not having enough social workers and kids ending up in homes that are as bad or worse than the ones they have been removed from. ---
**Author:** ![zagloba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/977dab/32.png) [@zagloba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zagloba)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/12 "2005-04-14T12:20:28Z")
Worse than being pimped out as a prostitute? ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/13 "2005-04-14T12:40:22Z")
I’m not sure how good this [source](http://www.nccpr.org/reports/shadowsunshinestate.htm) (scroll down) is, but apparently children in Florida’s system might not even get a foster home. ☹ If even part of the claims in that are true, it’s horrid! It might be a very slanted account though. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/14 "2005-04-14T12:44:54Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I’m glad the piece of shit who “bought” the 14 year old was arrested but what can he be charged with? Kidnapping? White slavery? Possibly rape? Depending on the circumstances, probably all of the above. Not to mention likely assault and battery, statutory rape and just about anything else I could dream up. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/15 "2005-04-14T12:57:43Z")
Back when I was in college and still relatively naive I worked part time, three nights a week, at a liquor store. The other three nights another woman worked. She had a day job with Child Protective Services, and once told ma about a woman, with four children, ranging from 6 to 14, who sold her kids. I couldn’t wrap my mind around what she’d said, so she explained “Well, more like rented them out by the half hour.” Bitch prostituted all four of her kids. The other gal told me they were taken away and CPS found a foster home that took all four of them together, but I never heard anything furhter. ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/16 "2005-04-14T13:14:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Florida has a recent history of losing track of kids in this program, not having enough social workers and kids ending up in homes that are as bad or worse than the ones they have been removed from. Well, c’mon now! Ol’ Jeb and company have got more important things to worry about than the welfare of children! Yeesh! ---
**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/17 "2005-04-14T14:06:11Z")
> [@zagloba](#): > > Worse than being pimped out as a prostitute? If they’re anything like Mass. Department of Social Services, better than hooking, but worse than anything fit for a child. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/18 "2005-04-14T14:22:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Worse than being pimped out as a prostitute? In some cases, yes. I can’t believe I just wrote that. It’s a persistent problem all across the US, though, not just a Florida issue. It’s just hard to find good foster families. Most good people are just not up to the task of taking on additional children like that, which creates a shortage of good homes. PLus, Predatory types, the ones who are good at pretending to be good people, have all the motive and time in the world to work on cracking the system. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/19 "2005-04-14T14:23:32Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **adam yax** :_ > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by **racinchikki** :_ > > Is this some kind of sarcasm? What do you think should have been done with the poor girls? > > Florida has a recent history of losing track of kids in this program, not having enough social workers and kids ending up in homes that are as bad or worse than the ones they have been removed from. Yes, **adam yax** got what I meant. I would rather have the girls in the system than with their mother, but I don’t have much faith the the system, particularly in Florida. There have been some horrific cases down there lately. It’s just depressing all the way around. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178/20 "2005-04-14T14:35:46Z")
> [@zagloba](#): > > Worse than being pimped out as a prostitute? Dead is worse. Vanished is worse. Both have happened quite often in the Florida program. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/winner-of-the-mother-of-the-year-award/299178.md?page=2)