# Wisconsin Supreme Court Election - hugely important election happening now

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 4, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158 "2023-04-04T22:09:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/1 "2023-04-04T22:09:31Z")

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I’m from Michigan, which recently got itself less gerrymandered…leading to the entire government being Democratic for the first time in 40+ years.

Wisconsin has an election tonight that can swing the court to be liberal or conservative. The conservative judge approved of listening to overturning the 2020 election, despite the fact that Joe Biden won the state with zero doubt.

Abortion rights are also on the ballot, more or less. They have an anti-abortion law from 1840 or so and it could go into effect without a liberal justice elected tonight.

Polling has been almost non-existant for this election, but both Republicans and Democrats have put a lot of money into this election. Barack Obama has been campaigning there over this state supreme court. It’s critical.

I presume we’ll find out tonight? I don’t know how much mail-in ballots they do in WI and if they pre-sort them or not.

Anyone else following? It could determine the future of democracy in Wisconsin. And, kind of, the country.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/2 "2023-04-04T22:23:13Z")

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following, yes.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/3 "2023-04-04T22:29:04Z")

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I have my fingers crossed for WI. May they make the right (left) choices.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/4 "2023-04-04T22:31:47Z")

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I’m probably foolish, but I kind of think they will. Pro-choice has been doing well in elections when the whole public gets to vote and this is kind of another referendum on roe vs wade.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/5 "2023-04-04T22:33:11Z")

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538 is live blogging it.

> **[What Went Down On The Biggest Election Day Of 2023](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/trump-arraignment-2023-election-results/)**
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> Live election results and coverage of the race for Chicago mayor and Wisconsin Supreme Court. Earlier, we had the latest news and analysis on Donald Trump’s arraignment in New York, after a Manhattan grand jury indicted the former president last...

As I’ve said many times – I live in MN, but get WI TV so have been bombarded with ads.  
I also work and spend time in WI (I was also born in WI) – so I do care what happens to my neighbor to the east.

Brian  
I also posted after the primary:

> [@Wisconsin Supreme Court 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-2023/980188):
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> Currently the court is 4-3 with Conservatives in the majority. With a retirement the April election could flip the majority. Yesterday was the primary – there were two conservative and two liberal justices. TLDR one each advanced Candidate votes % Janet Protasiewicz 445,196 46% Daniel Kelly 232,29 24% Jennifer Dorow 209,441 22% Everett Mitchell 71,768 7% There have been a lot of Protasiewicz ads, and a fair number of Kelly (mostly from an outiside party) ads. Dorow is most f…

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**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/6 "2023-04-04T22:33:11Z")

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Cody Johnston of Some More News did an episode on this last week. It was well worth watching because it was informative and as always hilarious. Huh. I cannot embed a YouTube link. Strange, anyway you can search for it on YouTube. Oh apparently I can link the channel.

> **[Some More News](https://www.youtube.com/@SMN)**
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> Hello, I am a news dude and, news-wise, here is some of it.
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> Support the show: http://www.patreon.com/SomeMoreNews.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/7 "2023-04-04T22:48:58Z")

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Any recommendations for getting results as they come in? NY Times perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/8 "2023-04-04T22:58:05Z")

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I voted pro choice in the WI election today, as did the Mrs. She campaigned hard for the pro choice candidates on our ballot, including the state supreme court. Waiting for results, I’m cautiously hopeful.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/9 "2023-04-04T22:59:19Z")

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I’m concerned they will overturn the 2024 election for president if Biden wins again, which I think he will if Trump stays in it and ruins it for the Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/10 "2023-04-04T23:16:47Z")

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Does anyone know if we are expected to know the result tonight?

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/11 "2023-04-05T01:07:42Z")

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Wi polls have closed. I personally am using the 538 live blog for results.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/12 "2023-04-05T01:10:11Z")

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> I personally am using the 538 live blog for results.

I’m alternating between the [NY Times WI Supreme Court election results](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/04/04/us/elections/results-wisconsin-supreme-court.html) and 538.

Not much happening yet on either of them

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/13 "2023-04-05T01:34:45Z")

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from 538 just a few minutes ago:

[NATHANIEL RAKICH](https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/nathaniel-rakich/)

[APR. 4, 9:31 PM](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/trump-arraignment-2023-election-results/358074/)

Looking at the county-by-county vote, I’m seeing some good signs for Protasiewicz. She is leading in La Crosse County by 26 points; Biden won here by only 13. And Kelly is leading in Jefferson County, which Trump won by 15 points, by only 1 point. Those appear to be the two counties closest to reporting complete results.

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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/14 "2023-04-05T01:45:11Z")

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Stuff is moving fast — at 35% votes counted, P leads K 60 to 40

Brian

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/15 "2023-04-05T01:46:38Z")

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50 % counted, P leads by 57% to K with 43%

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/16 "2023-04-05T01:47:28Z")

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I am so hopeful for you guys. This is a hugely important election, for reasons previously enumerated.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/17 "2023-04-05T01:47:43Z")

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from 538 again, some analysis:

[NATHANIEL RAKICH](https://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/nathaniel-rakich/)

[APR. 4, 9:46 PM](https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/trump-arraignment-2023-election-results/358092/)

The results on the county level are looking very good for Protasiewicz. She is outperforming Biden almost everywhere. For example, according to the AP, at least 88 percent of the expected vote is now reporting in Dodge, Marathon and Wood counties. Kelly is winning Dodge (a Trump+15 county) by just 2 points. Kelly is winning Marathon (a Trump+18 county) by just 10 points. And Kelly is winning Wood (a Trump+19 county) by just 10 points as well.

per NYT analysis: According to The New York Times’s Nate Cohn, Protasiewicz is running an average of 7 points ahead of her county-by-county vote goals.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/18 "2023-04-05T01:57:12Z")

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MSNBC just called it for Protasiewicz!

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/19 "2023-04-05T01:59:18Z")

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So did the NY Times!!!

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/20 "2023-04-05T01:59:56Z")

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Can I just say, today feels a little like Christmas morning? 😃

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