# Wisconsin Supreme Court Election - hugely important election happening now **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 4, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158 "2023-04-04T22:09:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/81 "2023-04-06T00:30:16Z")
Maybe they did, or maybe they made it up. Looks like a shitty website for right wing nuts to me - the kind that still pushes Trump’s lies about the 2020 election. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/82 "2023-04-06T00:31:11Z")
And, if you look at WSAU’s website, they’re a talk-radio station, which primarily runs conservative talk show hosts, including three hours a day of Sean Hannity. > **[On Air](https://wsau.com/on-air/)** ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/83 "2023-04-06T00:33:40Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > You are terrible at finding unbiased sources. The whole point is that there are real people, family mebers at the time, who are being quoted and went on record. Regardless of which rag reported it. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/84 "2023-04-06T00:35:47Z")
> [@Uncommon\_Sense](#): > > The whole point is that there are real people, family mebers at the time, who are being quoted and went on record. And who were on the other side in what, it sounds like, may have been a contentious, short-lived marriage. They _might_ just have an axe to grind. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/85 "2023-04-06T00:36:09Z")
Maybe there are, or maybe they made it up. If the only rag reporting it is a right wing nutbag rag, then I’m skeptical. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/86 "2023-04-06T00:49:54Z")
Protasiewicz has been a public figure for decades, including the entire time after the events being alleged by her former family members. She was an assistant DA in Milwaukee County, and then was a state circuit court judge beginning in 2014. Were these allegations being brought up previous to this election? ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/87 "2023-04-06T01:56:25Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Maybe there are, or maybe they made it up. If the only rag reporting it is a right wing nutbag rag, then I’m skeptical. You do understand how politics work, right? The right digs up stuff on the left and the left digs up stuff on the right. You will never find a left leaning rag breaking a story like this. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/88 "2023-04-06T02:00:45Z")
> [@Uncommon\_Sense](#): > > You do understand how politics work, right? The right digs up stuff on the left and the left digs up stuff on the right. And, if the “stuff” actually has some substance, it gets picked up by the mainstream press. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/89 "2023-04-06T02:05:43Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Sure, but _ **politically** _, (and morally) don’t they need some cover? > > ETA: I guess I’m asking if the entire Wisconsin Republican party is a lost cause? Bear in mind that the Republicans in Tennessee are planning on kicking out three Democrats for using a bull-horn on the floor of the Assembly. The bullhorn was the problem. Not that they were supporting gun control after a school shooting with fatalities. The bullhorn was an assault on democracy. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/90 "2023-04-06T02:25:40Z")
Even if Kelly decided not to mention it (given his non-concession speech doing so is not below him), seems odd that none of the 17\* outside interest groups ran ads about this. Brian \* I made that number up, but there were quite a few ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/91 "2023-04-06T07:53:22Z")
No one else seems to be even reporting on it. At most maybe another site reprints it. If it’s a good story with legs, other outlets will report on it. That’s how news works. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/92 "2023-04-06T11:24:06Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > ETA: I guess I’m asking if the entire Wisconsin Republican party is a lost cause? Ding ding ding we have a winner!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/93 "2023-04-06T11:42:54Z")
Do you support removing George Santos (or Kavanagh)? Or just Democrats? Because for some reason with Santos, it is “the voters have spoken”, but for Protasiewicz it seems to be “There was an incident in her past, remove her!” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/94 "2023-04-06T11:45:40Z")
> [@Uncommon\_Sense](#): > > > [@Miller](#): > > > > You are terrible at finding unbiased sources. > > The whole point is that there are real people, family mebers at the time, who are being quoted and went on record. Regardless of which rag reported it. There are real people who are alleged to have said that she said something nasty a long time ago. You know what, even if it’s true, and she’s a shitty human being, it looks like she’s a less shitty human being than the guy she defeated. Even if she’s a racist piece of shit, she’s likely to help make it easier for Black people in Wisconsin to vote, for instance. I’m going to continue to celebrate her win. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/95 "2023-04-06T12:31:16Z")
> [@Uncommon\_Sense](#): > > You will never find a left leaning rag breaking a story like this. This is an indication that you don’t look at very much left-leaning press, or that you accept the characterization of left-leaning press as reported by right-leaning press. You will definitely see stories like this on the left — not everywhere, not consistently in lockstep like on the right, because the left is fragmentary and fractious. This is because of the difference between right and left in terms of what is considered the greatest sin. On the right, the greatest sin is weakness. That’s why Trump is their ultimate hero: he never, ever concedes anything. On the left, by contrast, the greatest sin is _hypocrisy._ The right doesn’t give a shit about hypocrisy, but on the left, the different camps are poised to pounce on each other for any perceived gap between position and action. If this were not the case, then Franken would never have been forced to resign, to name just one example. If there were anything to these accusations, then the left’s hypocrisy patrol would be out in force. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/96 "2023-04-09T22:19:30Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I imagined a lot of Mitt Romneys out there, or at least enough to stop a baseless impeachment of a Supreme Court Justice. 5 or 10% perhaps? Drop the percent. 5 or 10 total is probably closer to the mark. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/97 "2023-04-18T18:38:28Z")
> [@Uncommon\_Sense](#): > > She alleged “The maps are rigged”, referring to gerrymandering (spits out coffee). Alleged? ALLEGED?? Those maps are more rigged than the Niña, Pinta, and Santa Maria put together. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/98 "2023-04-18T18:43:03Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Alleged? ALLEGED?? Those maps are more rigged than the Niña, Pinta, and Santa Maria put together. Indeed. As per Politifact: > [@](#): > > **2012:** Republicans got only 46 percent of the presidential vote in Wisconsin, but won 60 percent of the seats in the state Assembly. > > **2014:** Republicans got just over 52 percent of the vote for governor, but captured 63 percent of the Assembly seats. > > **2016:** [Donald Trump](https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/) won 50.4 percent of the vote for president, but won 64 percent of the Assembly seats. > > [Viewed another way](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/24/wisconsins-state-legislative-districts-are-a-big-republican-gerrymander/?utm_term=.fe3323440602), according to political scientists at Binghamton University: Wisconsin Democrats probably have to win about 55 to 56 percent of the statewide vote to win control of the state Assembly, while Republicans need only win 44 to 45 percent. > **[PolitiFact - Attacking Republicans, Democratic state senator says Wisconsin...](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/mar/17/dave-hansen/attacking-republicans-democratic-state-senator-say/)** > > A federal court has ruled that boundaries drawn by Wisconsin Republicans in 2011 for state legislative districts were so ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/99 "2023-04-18T22:39:55Z")
Milwaukee and Dane county carry the democratic vote, heavily. The rest of the state’s counties lean republican (in general). ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158/100 "2023-04-18T22:46:03Z")
Not untrue…but, as a human (including political) geographer based in a small city in west-central Wisconsin, I gotta tell you — there’s no escaping the reality of the gerrymandering, as summarized in the post above. I agree that there should be some recognition of larger-area, lower-density regional proclivities apart from mere population numbers, but not nearly to that extent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-hugely-important-election-happening-now/982158.md?page=6)