# Wisconsin Teen Charged With Using Facebook for Sexual Blackmail **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 5, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599 "2009-02-05T18:52:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/1 "2009-02-05T18:52:14Z")
[The article](http://www.jsonline.com/news/waukesha/39124037.html). In summary, a Wisconsin teen is accused of posing as a female on Facebook, and persuading at least 31 male classmates to send him naked photos and videos of themselves. He then used the photos as blackmail in order to coerce the boys into having sex with him at various places around town. In addition to the 300 photos and videos of his classmates, police found tons of other child pornography on his computer. He is also accused of making several bomb threats against the school. Police believe there are probably many more victims who have yet to come forward. Wow. I can’t imagine what those victims and their parents must be going through. ---
**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/2 "2009-02-05T19:03:57Z")
I have a thread in the pit if you want to vent. > **[Student responsible for bomb threats, blackmail and sexual assults](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=505232)** > > This now 18 year old male has achieved what is far above the usual deplorable situations a student can manage. He did two bomb threats in November at his New Berlin school. Worse stuff came to light later. This student had posed as a girl and... ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/3 "2009-02-05T19:24:55Z")
Not to dismiss the seriousness of this, but I wonder if sexual assault – which is one of the charges facing the boy according to the liked article – is a sustainable charge? It could be argued by the defense that the other kids consented to sex in order to save themselves from embarrassment. Perhaps I’ve seen too many episodes of _Law and Order_. There was an episode where someone was blackmailed into having sex, but the blackmailer couldn’t be charged with rape. OTOH, age of consent must figure into this somehow. The scumbag is 18 now, and apparently the victims were aged 15-17. It doesn’t saw how long ago this took place, or how old all parties were at the time. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/4 "2009-02-05T19:33:26Z")
Are there really guys who are so sensitive about images of their naked bodies that they would have unwanted gay sex to keep them from getting out? That sounds really weird to me. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/5 "2009-02-05T19:40:56Z")
I agree, but when you combine “fear of public embarrassment” with the stupidity of youth, you have teenagers who will do almost anything. Even stupider is allowing the guy to take more pics, providing even more embarrassing material evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/6 "2009-02-05T20:10:14Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > Are there really guys who are so sensitive about images of their naked bodies that they would have unwanted gay sex to keep them from getting out? That sounds really weird to me. The article doesn’t specify that, though. It just says sexual acts, which could mean a whole lot of things, some of them not even involving being touched by the suspect. What a weird, and sad, situation. ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/7 "2009-02-05T21:06:37Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > Are there really guys who are so sensitive about images of their naked bodies that they would have unwanted gay sex to keep them from getting out? That sounds really weird to me. Are you claiming that this situation would have been much better if girls were involved instead? ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/8 "2009-02-05T21:25:25Z")
Edit: nm, misunderstood a post ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/9 "2009-02-05T21:36:18Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > Are you claiming that this situation would have been much better if girls were involved instead? I’m sure it wasn’t meant this way, but it kinda sounds to me like “since it’s gay, it’s icky and no way a guy would do that in a million years no matter what the circumstances” as opposed to “well no guy would ever NOT want to have sex with a woman, I mean come on.” ---
**Author:** ![hobscrk777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a6a055/32.png) [@hobscrk777](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hobscrk777)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/10 "2009-02-05T23:05:35Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > Are you claiming that this situation would have been much better if girls were involved instead? I think what he’s saying is that the “victims” here are just as much to blame as the perpetrator. I mean, seriously, blackmail is when someone says “I have a gun pointed at your daughters head. Rob this bank or she gets a bullet.” Who the _fuck_ engages in unwanted sexual activity (gay or otherwise), whether it be some sort of touching to full-on intercourse because someone says he has revelaing photos of you? (Don’t answer this question. It’s rhetorical, and apparently the answer is at least 31 male students in Wisconsin). These guys walked right into the bear trap by sending the perpetrator nude photos of themselves in the first place. **neutron star** , I apologize if that’s putting words in your mouth. That’s the way I feel about this whole situation, though. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/11 "2009-02-06T00:08:08Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > Are there really guys who are so sensitive about images of their naked bodies that they would have unwanted gay sex to keep them from getting out? That sounds really weird to me. Sex offenders are exceptionally skilled at manipulating their victims. That’s why they become sex offenders instead of, say, librarians or something. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/12 "2009-02-06T01:54:09Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > Sex offenders are exceptionally skilled at manipulating their victims. That’s why they become sex offenders instead of, say, librarians or something. Hey! We librarians can manipulate great! We can strong arm you into returning a late book. Or we can–we can–we– Ok, I got nothing. (and women, especially younger women are pressured and manipulated into sexual stuff all the time, but that’s another thread. Also, just because it happens doesn’t make it wrong and bad. I feel for these 31 boys. what a nightmare). ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/13 "2009-02-06T02:27:07Z")
> [@hobscrk777](#): > > I think what he’s saying is that the “victims” here are just as much to blame as the perpetrator. I mean, seriously, blackmail is when someone says “I have a gun pointed at your daughters head. Rob this bank or she gets a bullet.” Who the _fuck_ engages in unwanted sexual activity (gay or otherwise), whether it be some sort of touching to full-on intercourse because someone says he has revelaing photos of you? (Don’t answer this question. It’s rhetorical, and apparently the answer is at least 31 male students in Wisconsin). These guys walked right into the bear trap by sending the perpetrator nude photos of themselves in the first place. > > **neutron star** , I apologize if that’s putting words in your mouth. That’s the way I feel about this whole situation, though. No, you said it more clearly than I would have. Although I do also think that women would have more fear of naked pictures getting out, due to society’s stigmatization of what are perceived to be the actions of a slutty girl. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to stare at naked pictures of my evidently slutty new girlfriend, who is such a complete whore that she managed to make it to 27 with a whopping two sexual partners before me. ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/14 "2009-02-06T03:02:23Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I agree, but when you combine “fear of public embarrassment” with the stupidity of youth, you have teenagers who will do almost anything. Even stupider is allowing the guy to take more pics, providing even more embarrassing material evidence. This. > [@neutron\_star](#): > > Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m off to stare at naked pictures of my evidently slutty new girlfriend, who is such a complete whore that she managed to make it to 27 with a whopping two sexual partners before me. Photo cite? > [@eleanorigby](#): > > Hey! We librarians can manipulate great! We can strong arm you into returning a late book. Or we can–we can–we– > > Ok, I got nothing. Got the hair in a bun and the granny glasses? Got that smirk working? 'Cause I will\*\* intentionally \*\*reshelve some the fiction in the nonfiction just to get a little of your attention! Dewey decimal this, baby! OK you had me percolating with lust there for a minute, **eleanorigby**. Or am I developing a doper crush? 😕 I don’t know. ☹ You big tease! :mad: But ah, seriously. Teenage boys…wow we’ve had a rollercoaster ride with them in the Pit! When something like this happens, it seems like everybody can believe that they can be just\_that\_dumb, myself included. It’s awful that they were manipulated. By one of their own. Who was also just\_that\_dumb. The gay sex thing is relevant if it was TOTALLY against the victim’s will. I don’t think I could have been enticed. But man, if I really believed I would be totally shamed in my little home town…who knows? I’m so glad I’m not a teenager again. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/15 "2009-02-06T03:11:06Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > Hey! We librarians can manipulate great! We can strong arm you into returning a late book. Or we can–we can–we– > > Ok, I got nothing. Oh now. You’ve the power to suspend a Library Card !!! This is about emotional and sexual control, not gay or straight. Those boys got blackmailed. Seems it would be equally horrific were it a bunch of girls. E.T.A. : Hey !! **LobotomyBoy** , I saw her first !!! 😃 Cartooniverse ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/16 "2009-02-06T03:12:31Z")
> [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > Got the hair in a bun and the granny glasses? Got that smirk working? 'Cause I will\*\* intentionally \*\*reshelve some the fiction in the nonfiction just to get a little of your attention! Dewey decimal this, baby! > > OK you had me percolating with lust there for a minute, **eleanorigby**. Or am I developing a doper crush? 😕 I don’t know. ☹ You big tease! :mad: I’ll stamp your library card, baby–even if it’s overdue! Meet me in the stacks–the 500s and I’ll expand your knowledge of the biological sciences… 😉 [naughtylibrarian](http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/20893.jpg) God, she looks like Tina Fey… ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/17 "2009-02-06T03:29:50Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > I’ll stamp your library card, baby–even if it’s overdue! Meet me in the stacks–the 500s and I’ll expand your knowledge of the biological sciences… 😉 > > [naughtylibrarian](http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/20893.jpg) > > God, she looks like Tina Fey… Oooh, got a reinforced spine? **Cartooniverse** , I will kick your ass all over the 300s and you can read up on whether I’m antisocial or have a sexual disorder or… Whatever. Where’s the Kama Sutra, Miss Librarian? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![supergoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@supergoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supergoose)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/18 "2009-02-06T04:19:47Z")
> [@neutron\_star](#): > > Are there really guys who are so sensitive about images of their naked bodies that they would have unwanted gay sex to keep them from getting out? That sounds really weird to me. More like they’re so sensitive about their peers seeing it. See, if they just have sex with the guy, there’s a chance their classmates will never find out, but if they don’t, and the manipulator keeps his word, they certainly will. :rolleyes: in retrospect, but understandable if your main concern above all else is what your classmates will think. ---
**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/19 "2009-02-06T04:42:10Z")
A similar event happened in my town last year: [Link](http://www.pressrepublican.com/archivesearch/local_story_333233028.html). A guy blackmailed a girl he knew into having sex with “his friend” (who was himself), IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599/20 "2009-02-06T07:09:12Z")
> [@supergoose](#): > > More like they’re so sensitive about their peers seeing it. See, if they just have sex with the guy, there’s a chance their classmates will never find out, but if they don’t, and the manipulator keeps his word, they certainly will. :rolleyes: in retrospect, but understandable if your main concern above all else is what your classmates will think. I guess, but you already know that you can’t trust this guy. Who’s to say that he wouldn’t blackmail you for money or more sex by using pictures of you engaged in gay sex with him? That would be a thousand times worse than plain old nudes. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsin-teen-charged-with-using-facebook-for-sexual-blackmail/484599.md?page=2)