# Wisconsin's John Bradley NOT in Iwo Jima photo

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**Created:** [June 24, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217 "2016-06-24T11:01:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217/1 "2016-06-24T11:01:52Z")

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Growing up near Appleton I always heard that John Bradley was one of the flag raisers. After investigation it turns out he was not in the famous photo:

> **[Marines admit error, say Iwo Jima photo didn't include Wisconsin's John Bradley](https://archive.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/marines-admit-error-say-iwo-jima-photo-didnt-include-wisconsins-john-bradley-b99749686z1-384094831.html/)**
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> The Marine Corps acknowledged Thursday it had misidentified one of the six men in the iconic 1945 World War II photo of the flag-raising on Mount Suribachi, saying John Bradley of Wisconsin was not in the photo after all.

To be clear:

1. Bradley risked his life under fire to save the life of a Marine at the base of the mountain who was caught in the open under heavy Japanese fire. While still under and exposed to enemy fire, and in order to save the lives of other Marines who were willing to expose themselves under fire to bring back the wounded Marine, Bradley brought the wounded Marine to safety himself. He was awarded the Navy Cross for his actions.

2. He was at both of the flag raisings

3. He tried not to make a big deal out of it

Brian

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217/2 "2016-06-25T21:48:14Z")

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Both? The real one plus the remake? Don’t care if he wasn’t in the second. The first is what counts.

FTR: [The first.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/First_Iwo_Jima_Flag_Raising.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217/3 "2016-06-25T22:11:28Z")

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He was in the first. He was not in the staged reshoot that seems to be the one people are excitedly taking away his credit for. What a cheap shot.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217/4 "2016-06-25T22:20:06Z")

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What annoys the snot out of me is that HLN Morning Express keeps referring to the flag-raising by “members of the US military.” THEY’RE FUCKING UNITED STATES MARINES, God-dammit! Not members of some lesser branch. Give them the respect they deserve.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217/5 "2016-06-25T22:48:49Z")

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_snerk_ Jarheads are all the same. 😉

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2016, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217/6 "2016-06-25T23:48:09Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> What annoys the snot out of me is that HLN Morning Express keeps referring to the flag-raising by “members of the US military.” THEY’RE FUCKING UNITED STATES MARINES, God-dammit! **Not members of some lesser branch.** Give them the respect they deserve.

Bolding mine. Sounds like something a Gyrene would say.

Baker, US Army, 1974-1977 98G2LKP

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217/7 "2016-06-26T00:10:15Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> What annoys the snot out of me is that HLN Morning Express keeps referring to the flag-raising by “members of the US military.” THEY’RE FUCKING UNITED STATES MARINES, God-dammit! Not members of some lesser branch. Give them the respect they deserve.

Bradley wasn’t a Marine. He was a [US Navy Hospital Corpsman attached to the Marines.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bradley_(United_States_Navy))

Often the medics serving with Marine Units are actually Navy Corpsmen.

That’s no doubt why they used the more general term.

And cracks about “some lesser branch” are not appreciated. My father was in the US Navy at Iwo Jima. (In fact, he served on the ship where the photo was developed.)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217/8 "2016-06-26T00:47:15Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> And cracks about “some lesser branch” are not appreciated.

Before you start banning people, it’s not that he’s a Marine. Allowances must be made for people who volunteer to be that way. 😉

**dropzone** , USAF brat who figured out early that Our Uncle’s plans for me in '72 had little in common with mine.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wisconsins-john-bradley-not-in-iwo-jima-photo/758217/9 "2016-06-26T00:59:05Z")

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Marines are part of the US Military. I tire of Marine self-worship and greater than all others BS.
