# Wishing Death on Felons
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661
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**Created:** [August 14, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661 "2022-08-14T21:31:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/1 "2022-08-14T21:31:47Z")
Continuing the discussion from [FBI Search and Seizure of Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence (08-08-22)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-08-08-22/969329/1029):
> [@FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence (August 8, 2022)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022/969329/1029):
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> Moderating:
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> > [@FBI Search and Seizure at Trump's Mar-A-Lago Residence (August 8, 2022)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fbi-search-and-seizure-at-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence-august-8-2022/969329/1028):
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> > Ah yes, I meant the electric chair. Dunno how it came out as gas chamber. As long as they strap down Chump, I don’t care which it is. -
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> It’s against our rules to wish death on someone. Let’s not go down this road. Thanks.
Even if it’s a death sentence handed down by a court?
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### Author:  [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/2 "2022-08-14T21:34:34Z")
You know, I think you’re right. The rule extends to other posters only. I’ll rescind the mod note.
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### Author:  [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/3 "2022-08-14T21:37:46Z")
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)
#### Post date: [August 14, 2022, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/4 "2022-08-14T23:57:38Z")
Once again, justice prevails!
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### Author:  [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/5 "2022-08-15T02:42:08Z")
Death Pool participants breathe a sigh of relief…
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### Author:  [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/6 "2022-08-15T12:29:01Z")
That it isn’t against the rules doesn’t change that it is in poor taste.
(Wishing harm on others, the Death Pool is imho fine:) )
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### Author:  [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/7 "2022-08-15T12:29:40Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> That it isn’t against the rules doesn’t change that it is in poor taste.
Disagree utterly.
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### Author:  [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/8 "2022-08-15T12:53:49Z")
Describe the difference between you and someone in a crowd chanting “Lock her up”
(The hat doesn’t count)
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### Author:  [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/9 "2022-08-15T13:02:31Z")
The difference is that Trump faces actual criminal charges that could bring the death penalty, not the phantom charges of delusional minds as was the case with the buttery males.
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### Author:  [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/10 "2022-08-15T13:06:51Z")
But there is a difference between saying something deserves the death penalty and cracking jokes about how someone deserves death. The latter seems more like a rant than a legitimate policy proposal.
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### Author:  [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/11 "2022-08-15T13:12:00Z")
Nothing wrong with rants.
Take [Richard Allen Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Allen_Davis). I’m generally against the death penalty, but I would very much like to see this fucker dead. Given what he did, I don’t think it’s in poor taste to say so. And I could go on about it at some length.
Same for Trump (with the hopefully understood caveat that he first be lawfully tried, convicted, and sentenced).
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/12 "2022-08-15T13:39:08Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Describe the difference between you and someone in a crowd chanting “Lock her up”
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> (The hat doesn’t count)
Hatted or not GreysonCarlisle can actually articulate the crime he wants punished.
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### Author:  [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/13 "2022-08-15T13:40:02Z")
Have charges been brought?
(Consider the rest of this post moot if the answer is “yes”)
Now again describe the difference.
I can assure you the crowd we discussed were equally sure as you that they were guilty, this does nothing to differentiate you. (In fact you are behind on points — you skipped the locking up part and went directly for the chair)
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### Author:  [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/14 "2022-08-15T13:42:27Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> (In fact you are behind on points — you skipped the locking up part and went directly for the chair)
Actually, I didn’t. Re-read the OP and get your facts straight.
Charges are a real possibility in Trump’s case, unlike the email thing, which was only ever political theater.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/15 "2022-08-15T13:49:23Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Nothing wrong with rants.
In the BBQ Pit they’re fine, but often they break rules outside of the Pit.
Though I guess it depends on the content of the rant. And of course, a thread outside of the Pit with an OP that’s a rant will usually get closed.
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### Author:  [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/16 "2022-08-15T13:50:55Z")
> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> > Nothing wrong with rants.
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> In the BBQ Pit they’re fine, but often they break rules outside of the Pit.
True, but I didn’t read the post as a rant. Looked to me more like the logical expansion of the thread’s premise.
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### Author:  [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/17 "2022-08-15T14:51:43Z")
—You’re the one who “disagreed utterly” — you’ll forgive me if I treat you as if you are in agreement with whoever called for the chair/gas chamber? Else; what are you even arguing?—
Your assertion that this case is totally different than her email(server) is shaky at best.
Both are cases of (ex-)government officials storing (electronic) documents in conflict with official procedure. Both have still to become more than an investigation.
FTR I really hope they nail Trump, I just find cheering for his(or anyone’s) death unbecoming.
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### Author:  [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/18 "2022-08-15T15:45:09Z")
I want Trump to die in prison. I’m not particular about the method. Old age. Execution. Diabetes. Shanked in the shower. Covid. All the same to me.
But my assertion is fine. One investigation has a lot more substance than the other. As for cheering his death (or anybody else’s), I stand by my example above.
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### Author:  [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)
#### Post date: [August 15, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wishing-death-on-felons/969661/19 "2022-08-15T18:39:47Z")
(Always knew I’d be infamous on this board someday…)
I had made the first post (I think) about the death penalty for espionage, pointing out historical precedent. Several posters countered that even trying Trump for espionage, let alone asking for the death penalty, could cause his followers to rise up in open rebellion. I answered, _if these people should engage in acts of domestic terrorism or even war against the lawful government of the United States_ that the law-enforcement and military apparatus should respond with all resources, including the use of deadly force. Regardless, we should not let the threat of such actions by Trump’s supporters deter us from pursing charges against him, providing the evidence gives us sufficient cause. At no point did I advocate anything like simply staging a drone attack on the Proud Boys’ super-secret headquarters.
I’ll admit, my recommendation was couched in, shall we say, a little heated rhetoric, but I was trying to make a point. If justice is going to be dispensed only when it doesn’t get messy, what’s the point?
I was criticized for excluding the middle and saying Damn The Consequences, Full Steam Ahead. I accept that criticism. But I did not advocate using the military as a hit squad against the Democrats’ political opponents.