# Witcher Season 2 (see OP for spoiler policy)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, netflix\
**Created:** [December 15, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115 "2021-12-15T19:35:22Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/21 "2021-12-25T02:28:10Z")

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(Episode 3) Yennifers almost falling off dress was fine for a dip I. The hot tub, her beheading dress didn’t seem too impractical.  
I hope Ciri realizes that no amount of training will make her as good as a Witcher, that requires some performance enhancing substances…

Brian

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/22 "2021-12-25T03:58:43Z")

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Man, maybe it’s because they largely stayed on one plot thread the whole episode but that final one felt WAY longer than 48 minutes. Not “longer” like “God, when will this end” but I just felt like I’d sat through a 90min movie or something by the end of it. Was surprised to see it wasn’t any longer than the rest.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/23 "2021-12-25T18:03:37Z")

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And…?  
A pet peeve of mine in the show is everyone knows what a Witcher is and does, but doesn’t seem to _understand_ what a Witcher is and does. A Witcher is a super-powered mutant with **decades** of experience fighting supernatural threats.  
Nope, Ciri won’t match Geralt after a winter of training.  
But I don’t get why every untrained tavern-going nitwit on the Continent seems to think they can fight one.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/24 "2021-12-26T13:18:49Z")

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I can’t remember if they mention it in the show, but in the books, the Witcher’s believe that a child acquired through the law of surprise would not need the mutations to become a Witcher. It’s why they want one so badly, because they’ve lost the knowledge on how to make the mutations. They always assumed such a child of surprise would be a boy.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/25 "2021-12-26T14:14:52Z")

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> But I don’t get why every untrained tavern-going nitwit on the Continent seems to think they can fight one.

This doesn’t feel too much different from your local bar-going nitwit wanting to prove to his buddies that the boxing champion, MMA fighter, Navy SEAL, etc having a drink isn’t really so tough and is probably a pushover in a “real fight”. Witchers are semi-mythical and while people know they exist, I assume many people (especially after your fill of ale) figure they’re mainly just fightin’ dudes and all the rest is folklore, old wives tales and bullshit to charge a higher price for killing a deformed bear rattling in the bushes. Especially when he’s sitting alone at a table, refusing conversation and nursing a drink and the only time he talks is to call you a liar about how many talons a bog troll has.

We’ve just seen people hassling Geralt in a tavern. I wonder if a more boisterous Witcher with tales to tell and news to share fares better than the grump “refusing our hospitality”.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/26 "2021-12-26T15:36:40Z")

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> A pet peeve of mine in the show is everyone knows what a Witcher is and does, but doesn’t seem to _understand_ what a Witcher is and does.

Many people in the real world have heard of dragons, but very few have ever seen dragons or know how dangerous they actually are.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/27 "2021-12-26T16:12:25Z")

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> A pet peeve of mine in the show is everyone knows what a Witcher is and does, but doesn’t seem to _understand_ what a Witcher is and does. A Witcher is a super-powered mutant with **decades** of experience fighting supernatural threats.

Because humans would NEVER try to mess with physically superior creatures to their own detriment!

> **[Visitors watch man get mauled to death after he climbed into lion enclosure](https://nypost.com/2019/01/22/visitors-watch-man-get-mauled-to-death-after-he-climbed-into-lion-enclosure/)**
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> Tourists could only watch in horror as a man was mauled to death after climbing into the lion enclosure at a zoo in India. The man scaled a 20-foot barrier at Chhatbir Zoo, in Punjab, before droppi…

> **[Man accused of carrying daughter into elephant enclosure denies charges](https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/man-accused-of-carrying-daughter-into-elephant-enclosure-denies-charges/)**
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> A man who allegedly carried his 2-year-old daughter into the San Diego Zoo’s elephant habitat pleaded not guilty Thursday to charges of child endangerment and unlawfully entering a zoo enclos…

> **[Caught On Camera: Man Enters Bear Enclosure At Zoo, Tries To Drown Animal](https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/caught-on-camera-man-enters-bear-enclosure-at-zoo-tries-to-drown-animal-2234798)**
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> A man who was allegedly drunk broke into a bear enclosure at a zoo in Poland and tried to drown the animal.

> **[Tiger mauls man who climbed zoo fence to avoid paying for ticket](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-30/man-mauled-by-tiger-after-climbing-to-fence-avoid-buying-ticket/8225016)**
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> A tiger is shot dead after a man who climbed a fence into the tiger enclosure to avoid paying for a ticket was mauled to death at a zoo in eastern China.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/28 "2021-12-26T16:22:36Z")

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Yeah, i find that part completely believable.

I’m really enjoying this show. I looked the first season, but found it confusing. The simpler time line is helping me. 😉 We did rewatch S1E3 for context about Triss, and found some of the other parts helpful to review, too.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/29 "2021-12-26T18:50:20Z")

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[quote=“Babale, post:27, topic:956115”]  
Because humans would NEVER try to mess with physically superior creatures to their own detriment![/quote]

That’s modern Western society, inured to danger by its absence, whereas in the show humans die at the hands of animals, monsters, and weapons-bearing humans on the regular. And the Continent looks to be in that period when people with (quality) swords and other weapons were known to kill ignorant commoners willy-nilly.

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I don’t remember much about the first season, but wasn’t there a time skip that would have meant Jaskier was no longer around?

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/31 "2021-12-26T22:12:44Z")

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> [@hogarth](#):
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> Many people in the real world have heard of dragons, but very few have ever seen dragons or know how dangerous they actually are.

Think ‘furnace with wings’ - Flash of light, searing pain, then POOF! You’re nothing more than a pile of ash!

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/32 "2021-12-27T01:07:27Z")

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As a normal human, he should be older, for certain. He was at Calanthe’s party when they learned Ciri’s mother was pregnant, and she’s a teen now. But he came in late to the timelines of Yennefer and Geralt, iirc.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/33 "2021-12-28T17:18:59Z")

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He meets Geralt _after_ the _big_ timeskip (Geralt is born in [1160](https://www.witchernetflix.com/en/map/birth-of-geralt), Yennifer finishes her training/is transformed in [1210](https://www.witchernetflix.com/en/map/a-time-of-transformation), Geralt first meets Jaskier in [1240](https://www.witchernetflix.com/en/map/the-edge-of-the-world) ([when Jaskier is 18](https://www.witchernetflix.com/en/map/birth-of-jaskier)), and it is [1264](https://www.witchernetflix.com/en/map/an-encounter-with-nivellen) as season 2 starts. Jaskier should be 42 now.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/witcher-season-2-see-op-for-spoiler-policy/956115/34 "2021-12-28T17:27:26Z")

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Jackie must be one of those Paul Rudd types, he looks great for 40! But as a bard that’s pretty believable

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Finished the series last night. And I have lots of questions, that are all too spoilery to go here. Oh well. I enjoyed it, though. And we’ve now re-watched two episodes from season 1 to refresh our memories.

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(episode 4)  
Not sure exactly how Triss got the message that she was needed at Witcher HQ. Magic? Singing telegram? Not critical, just curious.  
Thanks for the heads up that Triss was in episode 3 of season 1 – it helped to refresh my memory. Also, that website is useful.

Brian

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My big question - are humans not native to the Continent? Did they arrive as part of the Conjunction with the other monsters or earlier?

The Elves talk like humans are recent arrivals.

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> My big question - are humans not native to the Continent? Did they arrive as part of the Conjunction with the other monsters or earlier?
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> The Elves talk like humans are recent arrivals

Humans arrived after the Conjunction. Iirc there were hints that the elves arrived in an earlier conjunction too? But not sure about that.

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> [@N9IWP](#):
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> Not sure exactly how Triss got the message that she was needed at Witcher HQ.

The same way the whores did? There’s clearly _some_ sort of traffic with the nearby inhabited valley (as seen in the animated prequel show).

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It’s complicated - _humans_ arrived via rifts with the Great Conjunction around 1500 years before the current era, but the humans in the Northern Kingdoms (the Nordlings) only arrived on “The Continent” 500 years ago (760s), by ship, in an event called the First Landing. I think they replaced any preexisting Northern human groups.

I think the human part of the Nilfgaardians also predate First Landing, but they have elf blood as well.

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