# With friends like these... (Liberal corporations, their support of LGBT, and "cancel culture") **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 21, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362 "2023-07-21T20:19:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/21 "2023-07-24T02:33:23Z")
> [@China\_Guy](#): > > Bud took the total capitulation route and became an enabler of vocal minority bigots. > > I get that companies and shareholders in general don’t want to get caught up in politics or culture wars, and can go at great lengths to avoid that. However, sometimes it’s just part of the DNA of the employees and values that make a company tick. But it didn’t even work. After capitulating and pissing off the LGBTQ+ community, the MAGAts still “cancelled” them in huge numbers. They should have just stuck by their guns and maybe they could have at least increased sales a little from the left wing. This way they lose both ways. ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/22 "2023-07-24T22:16:19Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > But it didn’t even work. After capitulating and pissing off the LGBTQ+ community, the MAGAts still “cancelled” them in huge numbers. They should have just stuck by their guns and maybe they could have at least increased sales a little from the left wing. This way they lose both ways. Exactly! I think you articulated this better than I. What Bud did was a lose-lose strategy. At best, put everyone off. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/23 "2023-07-27T22:34:50Z")
The logical conclusion to draw from this is that gay people and their allies should start making death threats against employees at stores that DON’T prominently display Pride merchandise, because it is clearly an effective technique for changing behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/24 "2023-07-29T01:49:13Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Did they just add it in some of the shithole states and that’s why it’s now an issue? More like they’re hyper-sensitized by other current events, CRT, drag queen book readings, etc. and emboldened by the success of the Bud Light boycot. I’m sure some people complained in past years, just not in the quantities and level of vitriol as this time around. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/25 "2023-07-29T02:25:44Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Curious why you call them “liberal” corporations. Is there any such thing as a liberal corporation? There are certainly some companies and corporations which are decidedly and consistently liberal, including support of the LGBTQ+ community. Two that come to mind are [Salesforce](https://www.salesforce.com/) and [Pennzys Spices](https://www.penzeys.com/). ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/26 "2023-07-29T02:27:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > While various Pride Collection products are under review, the only ones now being removed are the LGBTQ brand Abprallen, which has come under scrutiny for its association with British designer Erik Carnell. > > Carnell has faced social media backlash for designing merchandise with images of pentagrams, horned skulls and other Satanic products You’ve GOT to be fucking kidding me. There’s got to be more to it than that, right? There can’t possibly be that many adults in 2023 who still get their knickers in a twist over _that_, can there? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/27 "2023-07-29T04:45:02Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > There can’t possibly be that many adults in 2023 who still get their knickers in a twist over _that_, can there? How do you think someone like MTG can get elected? ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/28 "2023-07-29T05:07:34Z")
Remember that corporations like Target, Disney, Anheuser-Busch and all the others that celebrate Pride month didn’t start doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. They did it because they could make money off of it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/29 "2023-07-29T06:17:53Z")
Yes, but think of **why** they are able to make money from it. It’s because there has been so much progress in advancing the acceptance of people within the LGBTQ+ community. Not all that long ago these businesses would even attempt a product line like this. Retailers aren’t heroes, they’re out to make a dollar because that’s why they exist. They’re not the ones fighting for equal rights, rather they are a sign that the effort has been successful. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/30 "2023-07-29T14:25:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > How do you think someone like MTG can get elected? Racism and ignorance - it doesn’t take literally being scared of this dude: [![](https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5d0d56a203a303d37b7e4451/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Hutton-DevilExpression.jpg) ](https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5d0d56a203a303d37b7e4451/master/w_2560%2Cc_limit/Hutton-DevilExpression.jpg) Just stock up on silver arrows and potions of Protection from Law and you’ll be fine. More seriously, I am still flabbergasted by this. Doesn’t Target carry plenty of devil-related mechandise? The answer, in fact, is yes: > **[Devil : Target](https://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=Devil)** > > Shop Target for devil you will love at great low prices. Choose from Same Day Delivery, Drive Up or Order Pickup plus free shipping on orders $35+. Devil costumes, devil shirts, hot sauce with devil related brands, games like Diablo or Doom… it’s not the 80s anymore, demons and devils are back in the Monster Manual! But Target is going to stop selling clothes because their designer made unrelated devil themed clothes? Even though Target sells their own devil themed clothes anyways? Something doesn’t make any sense. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/31 "2023-07-29T14:28:08Z")
Do these people know that you can “Shop Target for Devil you will love at great low prices”, with your choice of “Same Day Delivery, Drive Up or Order Pickup plus free shipping on orders $35+”??? Surely the Prince of Darkness costs more than $35, which means that Target will ship him to you for free, same day!!! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/32 "2023-07-29T19:34:42Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > More seriously, I am still flabbergasted by this. Doesn’t Target carry plenty of devil-related mechandise? The answer, in fact, is yes: I just remembered I have a really cool Devil mask I bought years ago at Target around Halloween. It wasn’t for a costume, I just thought it looked cool. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/33 "2023-07-30T22:38:52Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Surely the Prince of Darkness costs more than $35 Yes, but the components for the summoning circle are inexpensive, though it should be noted that the quality of a cheap summoning circle should be cause for concern when calling forth anything higher than an imp. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-these-liberal-corporations-their-support-of-lgbt-and-cancel-culture/987362/34 "2023-07-30T22:57:24Z")
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