# With friends like this... John Kerry opens mouth, repeatedly chews up to the ankle (likely untrue) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 30, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293 "2024-09-30T16:41:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/21 "2024-09-30T19:43:12Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Yet it was still reported as “Kerry and the Democrats hate the first amendment!” Not widely reported at all. > [@griffin1977](#): > > Trump clearly actually hates the first amendment, yet you don’t see “Trump and the GOP hates the first amendment!” headlines Other than the link in the OP, I haven’t seen the US press report on this, so I don’t know that I’d agree they’ll report on it in a misleading fashion. The first amendment does prevent severe restrictions on misinformation. That doesn’t mean the first amendment is bad, but it does mean we need to look for solutions that comply with the constitution. I’m okay with Kerry saying that. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/22 "2024-09-30T19:46:25Z")
HEADLINE: > “Yet another politician from the sole remaining _sane_ political party is – once again – held to an _egregious_ double-standard.” There. Fixed. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/23 "2024-09-30T19:50:01Z")
For what it’s worth, this is the best that Hannity’s got. They really are in their own world. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/24 "2024-09-30T20:25:27Z")
John Kerry, huh? Now let’s check in on Newt Gingrich as long as were covering relevant people 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/25 "2024-09-30T20:47:50Z")
If anything is sacred in this secular republic, it’s the First Amendment. Kerry is wrong to imply otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/26 "2024-09-30T20:58:43Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > folks like the OP (who I assume is acting in good faith) thinks Kerry has “descended into nutbar territory, or senescence”. Thank you for the assumption. And thank you for the video, which I didn’t find (I was looking for news stories, not a tape of the event). Note in my OP that I said I couldn’t find any reputable news sources on this story (including anyone giving a counter narrative), and does this mean it didn’t happen? The answer, then, was yes. I am curious, how long did it take you to a) find the video, and b) find the relevant part of the hour-long video? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/27 "2024-09-30T21:16:51Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I mean, Kerry’s not wrong. He said an unpopular but true thing out loud. Yes, the first Ad is an impediment to “Good” Government censorship. That is a fact. > [@Jas09](#): > > This is the kind of click-baity BS that is infuriating. If you want to watch the entire 1-hour session and then come to the conclusion that John Kerry is an imbecile that want to overturn the First Amendment to combat climate change, you are welcome to watch it here: Right, Kerry stated a fact, he didnt say we have to get rid of the Bill of Rights. If Kerry said “the Second Amendment is an impediment to Gun control” would the OP think he said something crazy? > [@Jas09](#): > > But instead, agitators pick out a minute from a 1-hour talk, spin it in worst way possible, and astroturf it on their news aggregators until folks like the OP (who I assume is acting in good faith) thinks Kerry has “descended into nutbar territory, or senescence”. > > This whole thing actually just reinforces the point that if you only get your news from certain sources, and refuse to find the original video and use your own brain, its very easy to be fooled into believing things that aren’t true. Like that John Kerry wants to change the first amendment to combat climate change. Right. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/28 "2024-09-30T21:29:03Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I am curious, how long did it take you to a) find the video, and b) find the relevant part of the hour-long video? Maybe 20 minutes total. Probably a bit less. I could tell from the OP link that it was at the WEF, and doing a quick search showed there was only one event last week, the SDIM conference. Clicking that link here: [https://www.weforum.org/events/](https://www.weforum.org/events/) had a link to videos of all of the talks, of which John Kerry only attended one. So that was 5 minutes. Then it was just doing quick 5 minute jumps to the points where he was talking until I found part that matched what I had already seen in the OP link. So maybe 10 minutes there, but I think I actually got lucky and found it pretty quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/29 "2024-09-30T23:56:31Z")
And the left is not reporting on this because it is nothing really except possibly some unclear syntax. I would be surprised to see a publication that would publish a “that’s not what he said” sort of article. That’s how I found the story, was looking in the Blindspot section on Ground dot news. I am going to have to either avoid this section entirely, or dig deeper before I post about any story, because they seem to have no idea what is the difference between an actual news story and an opinion. One of the “stories” reported only by right-wing media was that a CNN commentator said bad stuff about Walz. Seems a waste to spend any time there. I think they have a real problem with lack of human oversight with their AI-aggregated news. And thanks to @Aspenglow for the addition to the thread title, which is second best to burying the thread entirely. Cornfield! Cornfield! (Yes, I know, they don’t do that.) ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/30 "2024-10-01T02:00:44Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Since the words First Amendment were not within the quote marks, I assumed someone was paraphrasing him to make him appear to say something he didn’t > Nope. [He said it.](https://www.foxnews.com/video/6362645263112) > I honestly thought after he said that, that he would follow it up with, “We need to educate voters.” or “That is why a person needs a variety of sources.” or “People need to critically examine their resources and the agendas involved.” I’m not seeing the argument that, somehow, censorship is evil but tying a person to a chair in a college lecture, with a government decided curriculum, and fines for failed test results is somehow less invasive of our privacy and personal freedom. If we must have one of the two, is the censorship the lesser? (Note: I’m not advocating for censorship. I’m pointing out that people don’t critically examine stuff on their own, minus forcible intervention. I’d recommend against both.) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293/31 "2024-10-01T02:09:41Z")
I think what that was about was that the Biden admin REQUESTED some social media sites take down fake news about covid, and some court said that was illegal, but I think they were overruled by another court. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-friends-like-this-john-kerry-opens-mouth-repeatedly-chews-up-to-the-ankle-likely-untrue/1008293.md?page=1)