# With Gays Like These, Who Needs Enemies?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 23, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679 "2004-04-23T18:21:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/61 "2004-04-24T16:34:27Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Are you saying that Eve is transgendered? If so, I owe her a huge apology.

Eve is all woman. **All** woman. She just needed a touch of outside help to show that fact to the world.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/62 "2004-04-24T16:56:10Z")

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> [@kung fu lola](#):
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> Eve is all woman. **All** woman. She just needed a touch of outside help to show that fact to the world.

She’s once, twice, three times a lady. . .

Unfortunately, a quick search of Shakespeare’s Dark Lady sonnets does not reveal a suitable quote. So I shall have to turn to . . .The Simpons

Homer-But, you’re a lady!  
Itchy-She’s a lady alright!  
Scratchy-A byooootiful lady.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/63 "2004-04-24T17:06:04Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I think it’ll be a better thread if you make it “Have you ever fucked a transsexual in a tree?”

**burundi** last night asked if I thought fucking in a tree would be difficult; I suggested it’d be easier if you found a nice position in the tree’s crotch.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/64 "2004-04-24T17:10:44Z")

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Fucking in a tree probably IS difficult, but you can’t do it in NY anymore… everybody will just tell you “it’s been done.”

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/65 "2004-04-24T17:46:40Z")

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> [@ouisey](#):
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> Rats.
> 
> Why doesn’t anything like that happen in Kansas City?

I’d pay someone to do it in Topeka, home of Phred Phelps.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/66 "2004-04-24T18:00:55Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> We do elect dead men to Congress. That’s gotta say something.

I’d mention that a dead person is, in fact, a favorable alternative to Ashcroft, but I’ll refrain…

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/67 "2004-04-24T20:45:35Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> What, another day and still no knuckle-dragging gay-bashers have shown up here for their purse-thrashing? …Wait, actually, that’s a **good** thing. I’ll put “The Black Vinyl Flame of the East” back on the shelf, I guess.

That would be because most christians who believe God condemns homosexual sex and sex outside marriage) don’t post here.  
I think there must be only about 3.  
Tha would be because they are called gay bashers, knuckle draggers.  
This is so a christian unfriendly board.

Whats this black vinyl thingie?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/68 "2004-04-24T20:59:16Z")

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> [@vanilla](#):
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> That would be because most christians who believe God condemns homosexual sex and sex outside marriage) don’t post here.  
> I think there must be only about 3.  
> Tha would be because they are called gay bashers, knuckle draggers.  
> This is so a christian unfriendly board.

Oh, **vanilla** …

This is not a Christian-unfriendly board. There are whole legions of devout Christians who post here without undue criticism. There are even quite a few well-loved and respected Christians who post here. I could name **Polycarp, tomndebb, scottischer, Mangetout, Siege, YOU** …

Just because the majority opinion on this board is that a particular (non-universal-among-Christians) belief is chauvinistic, outmoded, and wrong does not make this a Christian-unfriendly board.

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/69 "2004-04-24T21:07:06Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I’d mention that a dead person is, in fact, a favorable alternative to Ashcroft, but I’ll refrain…

Do you mean to be elected to office, or to have sex with in a tree?

Oh wait. I’m being silly. Of course it’s both.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/70 "2004-04-24T21:09:12Z")

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Someone help me - I have show tunes running thru my head.

\*Look at me,

I’m as helpless as a kitten  
Up a tree.

And I feel like I’m clinging to my 32-year old transexual lover,  
I can’t understand.

I get misty,  
And I need Vanilla Pepsi.

Walk my way,  
And a thousand New York police start to play…\*

Ouch! Who threw that?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/71 "2004-04-24T21:20:03Z")

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> [@Jayjay to Vanilla](#):
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> I could name Polycarp, tomndebb, scottischer, Mangetout, Siege, YOU…

Don’t forget Triskadecamus. He’s the most beautiful Christian I know.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2004, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/72 "2004-04-24T21:27:25Z")

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> [@Libertarian](#):
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> Don’t forget Triskadecamus. He’s the most beautiful Christian I know.

I knew I was forgetting people… ☹

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**Author:** ![Paladud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Paladud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paladud)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/73 "2004-04-25T00:09:41Z")

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> [@Slithy Tove](#):
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> Is this newsworthy because they did it down by the chess & checkers in daytime?  
> I find it hard to believe that farther north, in the Ramble, nobody’s ever climbed up and fucked in a tree. In fact, I’m off the IMHO to start a thread “have you ever fucked in a tree?”

I’ve seen a (really stoned) guy attempting to fuck a tree on Hollywood Boulevard a little over a year ago. The story in this thread just takes the cake though.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/74 "2004-04-25T01:09:15Z")

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> [@Slithy Tove](#):
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> In fact, I’m off the IMHO to start a thread “have you ever fucked in a tree?”

So is it just me or does anybody else have Bing Crosby’s voice stuck in their head singing

_So have you ever fucked in a tree?  
had a public BJ with glee.  
acted like a piggy… wee-wee  
or would you rather be a fish?_

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/75 "2004-04-25T01:10:53Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> So is it just me or does anybody else have Bing Crosby’s voice stuck in their head singing
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> _So have you ever fucked in a tree?  
> had a public BJ with glee.  
> acted like a piggy… wee-wee  
> or would you rather be a fish?_

It is NOT just you. :o

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/76 "2004-04-25T01:37:06Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I knew I was forgetting people… ☹

well, 7 is not a lot.  
What of Lynn73 and Jersey?  
I know for a fact they are wonderful christians, yet they are so disliked here, why?  
I’ve found nothing hateful in anything they’ve posted.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/77 "2004-04-25T01:44:16Z")

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> [@vanilla](#):
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> well, 7 is not a lot.  
> What of Lynn73 and Jersey?  
> I know for a fact they are wonderful christians, yet they are so disliked here, why?  
> I’ve found nothing hateful in anything they’ve posted.

I’m sorry, **vanilla** , but condemning someone to Hell because of who they love **is** hateful. And both of them have done that, along with **Jersey’s** personal character assassin, **Joe\_Cool**. Let me just quote someone I’m sure you’ve heard of… “By their fruits you will know them”. When the fruit’s rotten, it says to me that the person dropping it on the rest of us needs to examine their relationship with their savior a little more deeply.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/78 "2004-04-25T02:00:44Z")

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so some christians aren’t liked here.

I think they personally, weren’t doing the condemning, they were saying God was(will).

(sorry to hijack)

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/79 "2004-04-25T02:07:37Z")

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> [@vanilla](#):
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> I think they personally, weren’t doing the condemning, they were saying God was(will).

So it’s God that’s hateful?  
I suspected as much.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2004, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/80 "2004-04-25T02:20:08Z")

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> [@vanilla](#):
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> so some christians aren’t liked here.
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> I think they personally, weren’t doing the condemning, they were saying God was(will).
> 
> (sorry to hijack)

Some Christians aren’t liked here. Some atheists aren’t liked here. Some Jewish posters aren’t liked here. Some European posters aren’t liked here. Some American posters aren’t liked here. Some Asian posters aren’t liked here. Some male posters aren’t liked here. Some female posters aren’t liked here. Some gay posters aren’t liked here. Some straight posters aren’t liked here.

As long as the pattern is an individual one rather than a group one, I don’t see a “bias” involved.

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