# With Gays Like These, Who Needs Enemies?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 23, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679 "2004-04-23T18:21:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/121 "2004-04-26T19:58:07Z")

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> [@KellyM](#):
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> First of all, it was two heterosexuals (as far as I can tell; one man and one woman makes a heterosexual couple although either could have been bi, I suppose) in a tree. Second, if one of them hadn’t been trans, I doubt it would have made the news except maybe in the “police beat” as “A couple was arrested for public indecency for having sex in a tree.” There certainly would not have been pictures.

Yeah, but they weren’t just having sex in a tree. They were having sex in a tree, while shouting at the people below, and doing it to purposely cause a scene.

I would imagine if there were two straight NON-transgendered individuals doing so, screaming and demanding Vanilla Pepsi, people would be like, ‘what the hell?’

These two WANTED to make it about being gay or transgendered and such.

They made it about protesting.

And oh, it’s the parents’ fault? Bullshit. I know people treated like shit from their parents who don’t go out and boink each other in a tree. I knew of people abused, spat on, shat on, for all kinds of reasons-even for being gay, or transgendered, or what have you. Do they act like this? No.  
So chill, **Kelly**. It’s not about their orientations and gender issues. It’s about them being complete fucking loons.

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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2004, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/122 "2004-04-26T20:39:49Z")

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> [@vanilla](#):
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> They pulled this tunt …

And we all know how painful _that_ can be!

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/123 "2004-04-27T00:29:18Z")

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especially if its a christinas…

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**Author:** ![Reepicheep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ed655f/32.png) [@Reepicheep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reepicheep)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/124 "2004-04-27T01:32:04Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> It’s about them being complete fucking loons.

Or at least attempting to be.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/125 "2004-04-27T01:54:21Z")

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> [@Reepicheep](#):
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> Or at least attempting to be.

Well, they tried to be complete fucking lorna doons, but the crumbs got into the most embarrassing places…

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/126 "2004-04-27T02:33:26Z")

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we should be thankful they didn’t play some crapola music during, such as anything by Britney Spears…

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/127 "2004-04-27T02:41:34Z")

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> [@vanilla](#):
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> we should be thankful they didn’t play some crapola music during, such as anything by Britney Spears…

o/`Oops! I did it again! Had sex in a tree! With a pre-op Trans-G...o/`

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/128 "2004-04-27T02:53:10Z")

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She Bangs! 😃

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/129 "2004-04-27T02:55:44Z")

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[Lenny Briscoe]

So, that’s where the squirrels have been hiding their nuts.

[/nothing]

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/130 "2004-04-27T02:57:29Z")

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can’t stop

Person on the Street: Officer, what’s going on here?

Lenny Briscoe, " Oh, just waiting for the other ball to drop."

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2004, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/131 "2004-05-11T19:01:36Z")

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Another transsexual in the news:

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> [Boston Globe](http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2004/05/11/policeman_arrested_driving_in_fishnet_tights/)  
> PARIS (Reuters) - A French policeman faces trial in a police court for driving under the influence after he was stopped at the wheel of his car drunk and wearing only a pair of fishnet tights, a prosecutor said on Friday.
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> The man admitted he was a part-time prostitute after fellow police chased him through the Bois de Boulogne, a wooded area on the outskirts of Paris reputed as a nighttime hangout of transsexual prostitutes, in the early hours of Thursday.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2004, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/132 "2004-05-11T19:17:56Z")

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> [@Jeff Olsen](#):
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> Another transsexual in the news:

Sounds like a transvestite, not a transsexual. And was he wearing spike-heeled pumps with the fishnets? Hard to drive barefoot.

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**Author:** ![KellyM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/57b2e6/32.png) [@KellyM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyM)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/133 "2004-05-11T20:02:48Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Sounds like a transvestite, not a transsexual. And was he wearing spike-heeled pumps with the fishnets? Hard to drive barefoot.

Hard to be sure. A lot of apparently transvestite prostitutes are actually transsexuals whoring to make the money to pay for hormones or saving up toward SRS. I don’t know where France’s national health care system stands on funded SRS; I do know that this is an endemic problem in the United States and in other places where SRS is only available to the economically gifted.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/134 "2004-05-11T21:58:13Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> Sounds like a transvestite, not a transsexual.

I haven’t really found corroboration online but one report has the officer claiming transsexual status.

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-gays-like-these-who-needs-enemies/241679/135 "2004-05-12T12:30:17Z")

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> [@Jeff Olsen](#):
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> Hey, it’s Manhattan. Where else would they find a tree to climb? 😃

Brooklyn? I heard once that a tree grew in Brooklyn

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