# With trepidation, Benghazi

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 2, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535 "2014-05-02T20:30:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/481 "2014-05-21T15:40:39Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> Why are you being so obtuse?  
> Let me put it in simple terms. I want Grayson on the panel because he is the perfect foil for this nonspiracy. He will not be an inactive participant, and he will ask questions that I would ask were I on the panel.  
> Why do you want him there? It seems to me that you are implying that he’s a terrible choice, that he’ll crash and burn. Why?

It seems your assessment of what I’m implying is wrong. I want Grayson on the committee for the very same reasons Heather Digby Parton does. And I agree with your assessment that Grayson will not be an inactive participant. I’m a big fan of investigative committees. Ask the questions. Demand answers. Don’t accept redacted files and emails as answers. Don’t accept demands that questions should not be asked. Issue subpoenas and enforce them. A lot of people STILL have a lot of UNANSWERED questions about who knew what when.

As the United States Representative for Florida’s 9th congressional district, Alan Mark Grayson is certainly qualified to sit on the Benghazi committee.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/482 "2014-05-21T15:52:44Z")

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Thank you for that explanation.  
I don’t agree with your (implied) belief that he will be hounding State and the WH for the truth. I believe that he will be hounding the other panel members and debunking their conspiracy claims.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/483 "2014-05-21T16:04:05Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> I believe that he will be hounding the other panel members and debunking their conspiracy claims.

Which is why **I** want him on the panel…

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/484 "2014-05-21T16:11:24Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> It seems your assessment of what I’m implying is wrong. I want Grayson on the committee for the very same reasons Heather Digby Parton does. And I agree with your assessment that Grayson will not be an inactive participant. I’m a big fan of investigative committees. Ask the questions. Demand answers. Don’t accept redacted files and emails as answers. Don’t accept demands that questions should not be asked. Issue subpoenas and enforce them. A lot of people STILL have a lot of UNANSWERED questions about who knew what when.  
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Holy Crap. (Underline added) we should put someone who thinks like you do on the Bridgegate committee.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/485 "2014-05-21T16:24:18Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Holy Crap. (Underline added) we should put someone who thinks like you do on the Bridgegate committee.

How much does it pay and does it include per diem?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/486 "2014-05-21T16:28:26Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](#):
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> Really, dude? It was a typo. Let it go.

Ahem… I was responding to a post by **BrainGlutton**.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/487 "2014-05-21T16:55:44Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> (bold and underline added)
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> doorbinge/Democrat party - What difference does it make?

The difference is that the latter is almost never a typo.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/488 "2014-05-21T18:12:49Z")

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Enough with the typo nonsense. Stick to the subject or take it to the Pit.

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**Author:** ![statij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@statij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statij)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/489 "2014-05-21T18:22:40Z")

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No Grayson. 5 Democratic Benghazi committee members:

Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (D-MD), Ranking Member, Committee on Oversight & Government Reform  
Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA), Ranking Member, Armed Services Committee  
Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-CA), Committee on Appropriations (Subcommittee on State & Foreign Operations), Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence  
Rep. Linda T. Sanchez (D-CA), Committee on Ways and Means (Subcommittee on Oversight)  
Rep. Tammy Duckworth (D-IL), Armed Services Committee, Committee on Oversight & Government Reform

[http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-5-democrats-benghazi-committee](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-5-democrats-benghazi-committee)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/490 "2014-05-21T21:44:17Z")

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Cummings is great. He’s been a great counterweight to Issa’s stupidity in the Benghazi hearings prior to this select committee.

Duckworth is also excellent. She’s got some bite. The others I have no idea who they are.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/491 "2014-05-21T21:57:00Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> The others I have no idea who they are.

[Adam Schiff](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Schiff_%28Law_%26_Order%29) did some wonderful work as a DA in New York City, and is one of the first Fictional Americans to be elected to national office.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/492 "2014-05-21T22:36:06Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I believe Alan Grayson is the perfect choice/example of the Democrat party. The committee’s daily ramblings will make headlines every couple of hours. Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi… and the voters can see the Democrat party’s great champion Grayson at his best.

[He does seem to have a pretty good record.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_grayson#Tenure)

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/493 "2014-05-22T00:29:39Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> What’s not to like?

Seems like the full package. See below.

> [@jayjay](#):
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> Duckworth is also excellent. She’s got some bite.

Loves me my Tammy! At the risk of losing my congresswoman and getting a Tea Partier in exchange,

**Duckworth/Grayson 2016!**

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/494 "2014-05-22T15:20:50Z")

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Even if she stays silent, Duckworth’s \*body \*on camera will emphasize to all present or all viewing just how frivolous is the Republicans’ selective focus on this incident.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/495 "2014-05-22T16:00:08Z")

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The cast has finally been selected and the stage is set. Now we can expect the remaining unanswered questions to actually be answered. Who knew what when. The answers could lead to other, even more interesting, questions being asked. The previously redacted (aka unreadable by most people) emails and files will be provided in a readable form - voluntarily or by subpoena, if necessary.

And, of course, everyone on the committee will work together to “uncover” the truth, no matter how embareassing that may be to the State Dept, White House, CIA, or the people demanding that some questions shouldn’t be asked.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/496 "2014-05-22T16:04:06Z")

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Then: On to Christie and Bridgegate!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/497 "2014-05-22T16:04:38Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The cast has finally been selected and the stage is set. Now we can expect the remaining unanswered questions to actually be answered. Who knew what when. The answers could lead to other, even more interesting, questions being asked. The previously redacted (aka unreadable by most people) emails and files will be provided in a readable form - voluntarily or by subpoena, if necessary.
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> And, of course, everyone on the committee will work together to “uncover” the truth, no matter how embareassing that may be to the State Dept, White House, CIA, or the people demanding that some questions shouldn’t be asked.

There simply aren’t any unanswered questions. This has all been hashed over ad nauseum. All this does is fire up the right wing hate machine.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/498 "2014-05-22T16:07:53Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The cast has finally been selected and the stage is set. Now we can expect the remaining unanswered questions to actually be answered. Who knew what when. The answers could lead to other, even more interesting, questions being asked. The previously redacted (aka unreadable by most people) emails and files will be provided in a readable form - voluntarily or by subpoena, if necessary.
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> And, of course, everyone on the committee will work together to “uncover” the truth, no matter how embareassing that may be to the State Dept, White House, CIA, or the people demanding that some questions shouldn’t be asked.

what unanswered questions? Are you serious? Everyone knows this is political theater. I don’t see it working, however, and have no objection to a good forum for mocking Republicans for another 6 months.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/499 "2014-05-22T16:32:00Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Then: On to Christie and Bridgegate!

The other thread is still open.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/500 "2014-05-22T16:42:52Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> There simply aren’t any unanswered questions. This has all been hashed over ad nauseum. All this does is fire up the right wing hate machine.

You say there are no unanswered questions. The Democrats have just (finally) selected 5 party members to participate in a Congressional investigation. The investigation is going to take place. I’m willing to wait and see what questions are asked and see how those questions are answered. I, personally, would like to know what Obama was doing during the armed assaults.

I don’t believe providing a plethora of unreadable emails and documents should be considered _answering_ a question.

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