# With trepidation, Benghazi **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 2, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535 "2014-05-02T20:30:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/701 "2014-05-29T15:27:08Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I suppose it’s because Obama said his would be a transparent administration. If he had followed his _intention_ of transparency with actual facts and figures when requested, he wouldn’t be facing as much scrutiny as he has. Riiiiiiiiight. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/702 "2014-05-29T15:59:45Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > This whole thing is out of Alice In Wonderland: “There are no charges! Prove your innocence!” > > If Obama would wear a camera to record his every move, put his every phone conversation on the internet, kept a blog of his every bowel movement and posted pictures of every stool, Republicans would still say he’s being too secretive. It’s more Wizard of Oz. “_Pay no attention to those White House staffers behind the benghazi green curtain_.” ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/703 "2014-05-29T16:01:49Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Not this one. Maybe we’ll know more when it’s over. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/704 "2014-05-29T16:16:12Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Make your case. It’s not like we’re busy or anything. Take your time. As I said, to the extent that I need to, I already did. You lost. It’s already over. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/705 "2014-05-29T16:17:00Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > This is like getting a fishing license, dropping your line in a bathtub and catching nothing, then going out and getting an enhanced fishing license to catch regular panfish plus salmon, and dropping your line in the same bathtub. There are no fish to catch there, give it a rest. There quite simply is no scandal to be found. I don’t care if the pope appoints ten cardinals to join in or you get participation from the Federation Of Planets- there is simply nothing there. Nothing. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. Actually I think this fishing license lets you go fishing in your neighbors bathtub, where while you still won’t find any fish, gives you a chance to snoop in their medicine cabinet to see if there is anything else that might be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/706 "2014-05-29T16:21:02Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Actually I think this fishing license lets you go fishing in your neighbors bathtub, where while you still won’t find any fish, gives you a chance to snoop in their medicine cabinet to see if there is anything else that might be interesting. Exactly. The GOP is absolutely desparate to pull a Whitewater on Obama and every single thing they’ve attempted has fallen flat. This is their last-ditch effort and they’re going to go Ken Starring all over executive-branch DC to find their Monica. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/707 "2014-05-29T16:25:44Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Maybe we’ll know more when it’s over. In some individuals’ cases, that’s doubtful. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/708 "2014-05-29T16:34:35Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Maybe we’ll know more when it’s over. And when we don’t, you’ll still have “questions.” You’ll want _another_ investigation. Because you’re convinced there’s something, _something_ out there to justify your evidence-free hatred and contempt for the President and his administration. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/709 "2014-05-29T17:39:14Z")
> [@andros](#): > > And when we don’t, you’ll still have “questions.” You’ll want _another_ investigation. Because you’re convinced there’s something, _something_ out there to justify your evidence-free hatred and contempt for the President and his administration. Unreadable documents are not evidence. 7 Democrats crossed the lock-step line to help create this Select Committee. Youse guys keep trying to stop the Select Committee from being created. That boat has left the dock. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/710 "2014-05-29T19:40:41Z")
> [@andros](#): > > And when we don’t, you’ll still have “questions.” You’ll want _another_ investigation. Because you’re convinced there’s something, _something_ out there to justify your evidence-free hatred and contempt for the President and his administration. There wouldn’t be any questions if Mr Transparency kept his word. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/711 "2014-05-29T20:30:33Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > There wouldn’t be any questions if Mr Transparency kept his word. With respect, that’s a load. There is no amount of “transparency” that would satisfy those who irrationally hate and dismiss the President and his administration. ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/712 "2014-05-29T20:37:18Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Unreadable documents are not evidence. 7 Democrats crossed the lock-step line to help create this Select Committee. Youse guys keep trying to stop the Select Committee from being created. That boat has left the dock. You’re suggesting that 7 Democrats joined ol’ Trey’s ol’ Select Committee against the wishes of their party? And that they did so just because they so endorse the idea that this committee serves a legitimate purpose in advancing the public interest? HAHAHAHAHA. ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/713 "2014-05-29T20:48:12Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > There wouldn’t be any questions if Mr Transparency kept his word. The Ben Rhodes email illustrates exactly why that’s not true. On any dispassionate reading of the contents of that email and associated files, it does nothing to advance the Benghazi scandal narrative. Yet it has been repeatedly represented as doing just that, both by Republican politicians and the right-wing media. So “transparency” is a red herring. If Republicans are going to twist and misrepresent whatever is released to them, then how is “more transparency” supposed to make the questions go away? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/714 "2014-05-29T21:35:49Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > This is like getting a fishing license, dropping your line in a bathtub and catching nothing, then going out and getting an enhanced fishing license to catch regular panfish plus salmon, and dropping your line in the same bathtub. There are no fish to catch there, give it a rest. There quite simply is no scandal to be found. I don’t care if the pope appoints ten cardinals to join in or you get participation from the Federation Of Planets- there is simply nothing there. Nothing. N-O-T-H-I-N-G. But that’s not the point. The point is to talk about fishing, and talk about all the fish you’ve caught, and imply that you’ve actually already caught a couple, and then take out a full page ad in the paper declaring yourself a fishing champion. It’s about perception. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/715 "2014-05-29T21:39:43Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Unreadable documents are not evidence. 7 Democrats crossed the lock-step line to help create this Select Committee. Youse guys keep trying to stop the Select Committee from being created. That boat has left the dock. Nobody is saying that Republicans have a monopoly on useless ideas. We’re just confirming that 7 Democratic votes doesn’t make something a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/716 "2014-05-29T21:49:44Z")
> [@Donald\_Rump](#): > > You’re suggesting that 7 Democrats joined ol’ Trey’s ol’ Select Committee against the wishes of their party? And that they did so just because they so endorse the idea that this committee serves a legitimate purpose in advancing the public interest? > > HAHAHAHAHA. Exactly. Democratic participation in the Select Committee is analogous to having a guard dog or two just outside the henyard. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/717 "2014-05-29T22:22:14Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > There wouldn’t be any questions if Mr Transparency kept his word. Heh. You say that in a thread where one of the most active posters is **Donald Rump**. Does that name remind you of anyone? > **[Donald Trump Floats Completely Insane Birther Conspiracy After Health...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-birther_n_4435621)** > > Donald Trump Floats Completely Insane Birther Conspiracy After Health Official's Death No amount of documentation will satisfy these idiots. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/718 "2014-05-29T23:37:49Z")
> [@Donald\_Rump](#): > > You’re suggesting that 7 Democrats joined ol’ Trey’s ol’ Select Committee against the wishes of their party? And that they did so just because they so endorse the idea that this committee serves a legitimate purpose in advancing the public interest? > > HAHAHAHAHA. You seem to have overlooked the fact that the Democrat party wanted to boycott this Select Committee. ---
**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/719 "2014-05-30T01:03:50Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > You seem to have overlooked the fact that the Democrat party wanted to boycott this Select Committee. I’m sorry, is that some third party I’m not familiar with? Or perhaps you could enlighten us all as to what point you’re trying to make by deliberately misspelling the name of the Democratic Party? Do you find that a poster’s credibility is a) enhanced or b) diminished by saying Repugs instead of Republicans? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/720 "2014-05-30T01:14:15Z")
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