# With trepidation, Benghazi

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 2, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535 "2014-05-02T20:30:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/721 "2014-05-30T01:20:21Z")

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Wigger\*, please. 😉

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  - See? I made a pun out of a common, but unspeakable, phrase, a nickname for white kids who pretend they are from the ghetto, the poster’s user name, and Donald Trump’s hair. Deucedly clever, I am. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/722 "2014-05-30T06:19:16Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> Heh. You say that in a thread where one of the most active posters is **Donald Rump**. Does that name remind you of anyone?
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> No amount of documentation will satisfy these idiots.

You’re projecting an excuse with no basis of fact. The WH was reluctant from day one to provide information. Transparency isn’t just a bullshit soundbite that Obama can throw out in a campaign. It’s the law. Politicians are answerable for their actions and Congress is entitled to the information. You can stamp your feet and call people names all you want.

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/723 "2014-05-30T10:10:11Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Maybe we’ll know more when it’s over.

And if not, there’s always the next one!

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/724 "2014-05-30T10:13:24Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> You’re projecting an excuse with no basis of fact. The WH was reluctant from day one to provide information. Transparency isn’t just a bullshit soundbite that Obama can throw out in a campaign. It’s the law. Politicians are answerable for their actions and Congress is entitled to the information. You can stamp your feet and call people names all you want.

And since this is the first time an American president has not lived up to every promise made while campaigning, I guess it _does_ make Obama the worst president ever.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/725 "2014-05-30T14:25:41Z")

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> [@Pashnish\_Ewing](#):
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> And if not, there’s always the next one!

Whatever it takes to get to the truth. At least there won’t be another Executive Privilege issued, as there was to quell the investigation into the Fast & Furious debacle. It doesn’t appear, currently, that the head of the Executive Branch was involved in any U.S. government decision or action involving the Benghazi attacks or the aftermath.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/726 "2014-05-30T14:34:12Z")

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> [@Donald\_Rump](#):
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> I’m sorry, is that some third party I’m not familiar with?
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> Or perhaps you could enlighten us all as to what point you’re trying to make by deliberately misspelling the name of the Democratic Party? Do you find that a poster’s credibility is a) enhanced or b) diminished by saying Repugs instead of Republicans?

The issue is still under discussion in another thread. It doesn’t appear that there is a consensus among posters and no official ruling. You could submit your concerns for consideration and perhaps settle the issue of the use of teabagger/Repugs/Democrat party once and for all.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/727 "2014-05-30T14:36:13Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Nobody is saying that Republicans have a monopoly on useless ideas. We’re just confirming that 7 Democratic votes doesn’t make something a good idea.

It’s confirmed that the Select Committee will be taking depositions and demanding readable documents.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/728 "2014-05-30T14:37:27Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> It’s confirmed that the Select Committee will be taking depositions and demanding readable documents.

I’m pretty sure Congress understands the need for redactions. Don’t get too excited.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/729 "2014-05-30T14:38:23Z")

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> [@Wolf333](#):
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> doorhinge, an invitation…

It appears that a belated congratulations is in order. Your other thread has drawn the Cloward-Piven crowd like a moth to a flame. Now they have a chance to vent their growing frustration that they could not prevent a Congressional Select Committee from being formed to discuss all things Benghazi without cluttering this thread with their red herrings and misdirections. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/730 "2014-05-30T14:38:59Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The issue is still under discussion in another thread. It doesn’t appear that there is a consensus among posters and no official ruling. You could submit your concerns for consideration and perhaps settle the issue of the use of teabagger/Repugs/Democrat party once and for all.

Oh Hell yes there is a consensus. People who pretend they’re not being insulting by misspelling a major party’s name are subject to scorn and ridicule. Use of Teabagger/repugs, on the other hand, is okay if offense is intended.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/731 "2014-05-30T14:47:37Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Use of Teabagger/repugs, on the other hand, is okay if offense is intended.

It is often used to express derision than cause offense as such, but I’ve never come across anyone who uses them denying the intent, coyly or otherwise.

The use of “Democrat Party” \*can \*be the result of simple massive ignorance instead, though.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/732 "2014-05-30T14:53:28Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Oh Hell yes there is a consensus. People who pretend they’re not being insulting by misspelling a major party’s name are subject to scorn and ridicule. Use of Teabagger/repugs, on the other hand, is okay if offense is intended.

Oh No. Not scorn and ridicule. :eek:

Did you have anything to add to _Thread: With trepidation, Benghazi_ ?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/733 "2014-05-30T14:53:50Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Whatever it takes to get to the truth. At least there won’t be another Executive Privilege issued, as there was to quell the investigation into the Fast & Furious debacle. It doesn’t appear, currently, that the head of the Executive Branch was involved in any U.S. government decision or action involving the Benghazi attacks or the aftermath.

That does not mean Executive Privilege would not apply.

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**Author:** ![Donald\_Rump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Donald\_Rump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donald_Rump)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/734 "2014-05-30T14:54:07Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Now they have a chance to vent their growing frustration that they could not prevent a Congressional Select Committee from being formed to discuss all things Benghazi without cluttering this thread with their red herrings and misdirections. Thank you.

I didn’t notice anyone venting frustration regarding their inability to prevent ol’ Trey’s ol’ Select Committee in that other thread. As far as I can tell, that other thread is pretty focused on the more narrow topic of a rather insipid manifestation of trolling and how it reflects upon those engaged in such trolling.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/735 "2014-05-30T14:55:36Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It is often used to express derision than cause offense as such, but I’ve never come across anyone who uses them denying the intent, coyly or otherwise.
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> The use of “Democrat Party” \*can \*be the result of simple massive ignorance instead, though.

Damn straight. I use Teabagger to be as offensive as possible to the pathetic scum that these people are. I make no bones about it, I think Tea Partiers are an inflamed and fetid boil on the buttocks of society and I take every opportunity to be offensive to them. I believe this position is one of more honesty and integrity than feigning innocence while using the term “Democrat Party”.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/736 "2014-05-30T14:57:59Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> It is often used to express derision than cause offense as such, but I’ve never come across anyone who uses them denying the intent, coyly or otherwise.
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> The use of “Democrat Party” \*can \*be the result of simple massive ignorance instead, though.

And the Select Committee is still going to be seeking answers to all things Benghazi. You can call the participants anything you wish. The investigation proceeds.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/737 "2014-05-30T14:59:29Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> That does not mean Executive Privilege would not apply.

If Obama wasn’t involved, how does Executive Privilege apply?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/738 "2014-05-30T15:05:24Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> And the Select Committee is still going to be seeking answers to all things Benghazi.

They could simply read the reports of all the \*previous \*committee investigations. 😉

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/739 "2014-05-30T15:08:53Z")

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In other Benghazi news, Hillary’s new book has a section on Benghazi, expect the right wing echo chamber to get all apoplectic about something.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/with-trepidation-benghazi/687535/740 "2014-05-30T15:12:11Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Whatever it takes to get to the truth. At least there won’t be another Executive Privilege issued, as there was to quell the investigation into the Fast & Furious debacle. It doesn’t appear, currently, that the head of the Executive Branch was involved in any U.S. government decision or action involving the Benghazi attacks or the aftermath.

So you concede that Obama didn’t do anything wrong. Well, that was easy.

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