With trepidation, Benghazi

[Debaser]

@nate

I still haven’t seen any proof that the administration was being dishonest here… Can you provide a simple timeline illustrating your point? I admit I’m not an expert at this, but did the administrator make up that the attacks were spontaneous or were they told that by the intelligence community?

I don’t think a timeline of exactly what happened when is very important.

The thread I will always remember was one we had one the Presidential debate, that turned into a discussion on Benghazi.

It was over a month after the attack. It had been widely reported that it was in fact an attack. Not a protest. Not a protest that turned into an attack.

We were in the middle of debating whether there was a cover up or not and people still at that point didn’t know that it wasn’t a protest turned wrong.

That’s how powerfully and consistently the Obama administration was pumping out that message. That was exactly what they wanted.

Here’s some highlights from that thread, in late October. (The attack happened on Sept 11th.)

@Debaser

That’s just the thing. There wasn’t a riot.

It didn’t happen. It was either a mistake or a lie to claim there was a riot depending on how much you trust the administration.

There was an organized terror attack in Libya on 9/11/2012, not a mob rioting. No one disputes this anymore.

I guess we can put to bed the argument that Obama Administration couldn’t possibly have been hoping to deceive the American people about the nature of the attack since there’s someone right here in this thread who still insists that some riot took place, rather than an organized and planned terror attack.

Have you been reading the thread? You should make some effort to have knowledge of the basic facts before participating.

@Lobohan

What the fuck are you even talking about, Debaser?

@Gangster_Octopus

In fact there is plenty of dispute.

@Miller

There was no riot in Libya at all? This is literally the first time I’ve heard this. I tried several Google searches using variations on “Libya riot,” but I haven’t found anything that indicates that there were no riots at all. What source am I missing for this story?

These are posters who I disagree with from time to time, but that are generally well informed. The administration was broadcasting the lies about an attack so consistently and loudly that they didn’t even know there wasn’t any protest. They still didn’t know it was a straight up attack long after the facts had come out.

Note that back then I wasn’t ready to call the administration liars about this yet. There was a chance that it was fog of war, or something. But nothing has come out yet backing up their story.

It seems very clear that the talking points that Rice went out with were designed to confuse people and mislead, at the very least.

The claim that some people are making here that she was telling the truth because she did mention heavily armed militants showed up is just silly. That doesn’t get her off the hook. Clearly she was downplaying that and mentioning the protests as much as possible, and that part wasn’t true.